Warrior1256
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Sounds good to me.
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Attending a Dinner in a few weeks - What should I expect?
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fmasonlog
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Is master mason degree also considered 32nd? I'm freshly raised, forgive me.
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slidelock
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Is master mason degree also considered 32nd? I'm freshly raised, forgive me.
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Two different bodies.
Your MasterMason makes you a 3rd degree in the blue lodge. This is the highest degree in masonry.
The extra degrees you're referring to come from the Scottish Rite. There's 32 of them with an honorary 33rd degree.
Just because someone is a 32* Freemason doesn't mean they're any higher than a master mason. They just have more degrees in an Appendant body.
You also might be interested in the York Rite, or, if you really want a lot of degrees, the Rite of Memphis has 90.
Why would somebody join an appendent body and get more degrees?
To answer that, doing so furthers your Masonic education. There's a whole bunch of stuff and symbolism in the craft that most master masons haven't explored yet. The Scottish Rite goes over a lot of the more esoteric type of studies. To join you must be a master mason.
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fmasonlog
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Thank you so much for your reply. That had always confused me. And I am a master mason wanting to be a member of Scottish Rite. Any pointers?
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Warrior1256
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Absolutely. Additional degrees are just that, additional, not higher. Some of my Brothers do not understand this. There IS NO HIGHER DEGREE than 3rd degree Master Mason. However, the additional degrees do give you a more complete and deeper understanding of Masonry IMHO.
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Ripcord22A
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Warrior1256
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I have heard this Rite mentioned a few times over the years but know nothing about it.
Not always the case, just calling it clandestine is short sighted. Its clandestine in the US becuse the charter belongs to the Grand Collage of rites.
Abroad its quite different...
Elexir is correct, a rite in itself is not clandestine, only the lodge or grand lodge using it would be. Several South American jurisdictions that we are in amity with follow this path.
At one time Americans would have said that "Red Lodges" were clandestine. We now know this is completely false. Not only are many jurisdictions "red," but there are US lodges that do the first three degrees in the SR style.
Sadly, people like Brad C, and other spurious characters have tarnished the rite's name by branding their fake grand lodges with it.
At one time Americans would have said that "Red Lodges" were clandestine. We now know this is completely false. Not only are many jurisdictions "red," but there are US lodges that do the first three degrees in the SR style.
Sadly, people like Brad C, and other spurious characters have tarnished the rite's name by branding their fake grand lodges with it.
Ripcord22A
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The only regular and recognized GL that i could find that previously that uses the memphis rite is The Domican Republic I believe
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Bloke
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I believe it's considered clandestine here in Victoria.. Isn't it French in origin, is it considered okay there or Italy or other places by regular GLs?
GOI has it as a appendant body (GOI is regular and recognzied by some US lodges). French dont mean anything in regularity as (A)ASR as well as Swedish freemasonry has its orgins in france but yes it has its orgins in France.
Grand orient of Italy has it as an appendant body if Im not misstaken.
Bloke
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I don't think GOI is recognized by us. Does not appear to be recognised by UGLE
http://www.ugle.org.uk/about/foreign-grand-lodges/21-foreign-grand-lodges/144-europe
Citation that the "charter" belongs to the Grand College of Rites? As noted above by Br. Walker, no legitimate body in the continental US works the rite. Note also, that some take an obligation not to countenance any degree above the 33rd of the AASR.
Yes, UGLE and CGMNA GLs differ in this regard
GCR dont work anything as far as I know but rather functions as more of an archive of different freemasonic rituals.
Ripcord22A
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33rd ° AASR SJ