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Racism & Religious Hate

fmasonlog

Registered User
Brothers,

I need some advice. I am a newly raised MM. I love Freemasonry and my brothers. With that being said... something has been bothering me for a while. I am seeing brothers who are very nice to me, but in incognito they're either racist towards a race, or a certain religion. How do I know? Facebook. I am sick and tired of it... it literally makes my stomach turn. I will also discuss this with my PM. Should I join Prince Hall lodge? Another lodge? Does your lodge have certain individuals? How do you deal with that.

Thank you.


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coachn

Coach John S. Nagy
Premium Member
...I need some advice. ...
I caution you as to calling them out. Unless you can show yourself to have an unbiased view and do so within an unbiased arena, civilly, rationally and know that you can maintain respectful composure to any responses/reactions, it is extremely risky.

Even the most vigilantly anti-(whatever) person will soon be accused of the same thing that is being called out by wolves who wear the cloak of "victim" to these behaviors.

I witnessed an exchange between members recently. One Fraternal member repeatedly throw out what "he was" and he was finally asked to elaborate on his choice to continually call himself what he blatantly threw out, and unnecessarily so. The questioned member went full ballistic on the person asking him to expand upon his clearly baiting language. As he attacked this Brother, his words showed clear irrationality. He twisted and misrepresented the words of the questioning Brother. He assumed things that showed his clear bias. He even lied as to what was actually stated. He even accused the questioner of things that had no relevance to the question put forth. When others tried to point all this out, he then attacked those who dared to point these things out.

It became clear that he was waiting to unload a powder keg of animosity that had been filling up for years; the questioning and supporting Brothers had no idea how much hate was hiding underneath the surface of this attacking member. The barrage of hate unloaded upon these attacking member's targets was undeserved. It got very nasty and it revealed how biased this attacking Fraternal member actually was, along with all those other members who supported his biased view.

Ironically, he wore the cloak of someone fighting against the very thing that he clearly believed he was fighting against. I've seen this kind of thing occur many times.

Be Vigilant! But above all Be Cautious! Even the "victims" are not what they appear to be.
 

Warrior1256

Site Benefactor
Call em on their crap! Respectfully but call em on it
Agree, but people can have unpopular views but still not be considered un-Masonic.
I don't think leaving your GL will change anything. You will find bias even in PHA.
As well as in all groups.
I caution you as to calling them out. Unless you can show yourself to have an unbiased view and do so within an unbiased arena, civilly, rationally and know that you can maintain respectful composure to any responses/reactions, it is extremely risky.
Be Vigilant! But above all Be Cautious! Even the "victims" are not what they appear to be.
Agreed!
 

Keith C

Registered User
Unfollow them on Facebook, let them wallow in their own filth there. Be civil when you meet in lodge. Find other Brethren to emulate, be the Mason you wish others to be.
There is only one person you can change, work on that person.

Awesome advice!

We all have bias and social media has become an open forum for everyone's misguided opinions. I only post about food, beer, motorcycles, travels and family. I leave the "social commentary", politics, religion to others and if I have "friends" who overly post about those subjects I unfollow.

I know there are jurisdictional differences but in mine part of my obligation was to correct brothers when they stray from masonic behavior. To those who say not to bring this to the brother in question, do you feel yourself under the same obligation and, if so, how do you reconcile that advice to what you are obliged to do?
 

coachn

Coach John S. Nagy
Premium Member
Unfollow them on Facebook, let them wallow in their own filth there. Be civil when you meet in lodge. Find other Brethren to emulate, be the Mason you wish others to be.
There is only one person you can change, work on that person.
Amen!
 

Warrior1256

Site Benefactor
All advices are very helpful brothers. Thank you
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. I will though take bro JC's advice for now.
I hope that it all works out for the best, whatever that may be.
 

Brother_Steve

Premium Member
I don't feel comfortable disclosing anything that's done in the lodge, bro. As I'm new as well, when experienced I'll answer more questions if I can


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fair enough. But if you have one, go to that sacred retreat in your mind and think about it.

Also, don't forget your ea working tools. You shape yourself with them not others. If you try to shape another with your common gavel, you may be disappointed.
 

fmasonlog

Registered User
fair enough. But if you have one, go to that sacred retreat in your mind and think about it.

Also, don't forget your ea working tools. You shape yourself with them not others. If you try to shape another with your common gavel, you may be disappointed.

Thank you for the wise words bro. Means a lot.


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