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Rite of Memphis-Misraim

imxbx

imxbx

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I just found out about this Rite while studying Rosicrucianism and Carl Kellner came up. Curious what people think about the Rite. I'm interested in going into the Scottish Rite after I've been raised and had some time to feel confident in my proficiency of the first three degrees as well as becoming an officer.
Has anyone considered going for the 99th degree? Anyone ever met someone who's gone past 33?
Here's a link for reference:
http://www.iss-ic-memphis-misraim.com/english.html#esprit
 
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Elexir

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Memphis-misraim has a somewhat intressting history, while the first 33 degrees seems to be related to the SR it is a indipendant system so you would never go over the 33rd degree.
Albert Pike actully disliked the rite as he saw it as a sham.
 
CLewey44

CLewey44

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Just as a suggestion, I would maybe steer clear from that firstly because it may jeopardize your regular, blue lodge masonry. It may sound interesting with the 99 degrees and whatnot, but at the end of the day, it's clandestine and to be honest, something very much different than UGLE Freemasonry. Bill Schnoebelen, an anti-Mason who claims to be this 'super high ranking Mason' of the 99th degree, while he may have been a 'regular' mason, was primarily in the Rites of Memphis and tied RM, Satanic worship(no judging but just saying), witchcraft and blue lodge all together.

Your call at the end of the day, but I would definitely consider further research and not let the 'glamour of more degrees is better' get to you. Best of luck to you brother.
 
JCeire

JCeire

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There is a lot of interesting, albeit apocryphal, history of the rite of Memphis and its relation to Napoleon (and the wider French officer corps) during his Egyptian and Italian military campaigns.
 
CLewey44

CLewey44

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Some Masons, myself included, don't really have a problem with it and maybe should even consider recognizing it. I personally would not join it but who's to say it's a bad thing? There are several groups like that actually. Masonry should always be willing to grow and evolve.
 
Glen Cook

Glen Cook

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Just to clarify: the Rite itself is not clandestine, but it is not worked by any regular body in the Continental US. Additionally, some of us have taken an obligation not to receive any degree past the 33rd° . You certainly can study the Rite through the Grand College of Rites.
 
CLewey44

CLewey44

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Glen Cook said:
Just to clarify: the Rite itself is not clandestine, but it is not worked by any regular body in the Continental US. Additionally, some of us have taken an obligation not to receive any degree past the 33rd° . You certainly can study the Rite through the Grand College of Rites.
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My apologies, I was under the impression it was technically clandestine or irregular at least; claiming to be Masonic in its own right. Again, I'd have no issues with it being apart of Masonry. I'm sure it has it's perks. I know one thing, every degree would have to be very specific to spread this out over 99 degrees. I don't think I have to worry about taking anything beyond the 33rd any time soon. I haven't even taken 32 of them! :p
 
Warrior1256

Warrior1256

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Brother JC said:
Sadly, the spurious is always remembered above the regular. Characters like Keller, Crowley, Cofield, etc warp known systems to their own twisted ideals and soon it's the only version anyone remembers.
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It does seem that the more outrageous something is the more it sticks in people's minds.
 
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Elexir

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To be honest though, Crowley didnt use the M&M rituals long and the rituals currently used by (C)OTO are diffrent from the M&M.
 
imxbx

imxbx

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CLewey44 said:
Your call at the end of the day, but I would definitely consider further research and not let the 'glamour of more degrees is better' get to you. Best of luck to you brother.
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I'm not interested in joining but it is interesting nonetheless. I'm just starting my Masonic career but I don't really plan to go into anything other than the SR outside of the Blue Lodge.

Like others have said it is kind of a bummer that Masonry gets a bad wrap from being associated with some 'interesting' characters.
 
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Elexir

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The thing with MM is not really that its associated with fringe elements but rather that its a money scam considering how the degrees where given in many places.
 
CLewey44

CLewey44

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Elexir said:
The thing with MM is not really that its associated with fringe elements but rather that its a money scam considering how the degrees where given in many places.
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Exactly. A lot of other groups included in these scams. Several GD groups (David Griffin's specifically), AMORC and so on. You have to really weed out the bad ones to find the good in anything. Some are simply for profit, 'mail-in' type groups that have zero value and are total rip offs.
 
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Brother JC

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I'm not sure I'd throw AMORC into the "mail-in money scam" column. They're a long-lasting group with a very prominent physical presence in the Bay Area. Their museum is a local attraction and our kids visit it on school outings.
 
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