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Does happiness create wealth


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Bird_n_hand

Registered User
How many of you have read or watched the movie the secret,
I've been really Into this for a little while. I feel like it has positively effected my life. It makes me feel like life is more fulfilling. But has anyone ever gotten the financial wealth from using it. I havnt. I have only gotten from it that life is a choice and I can choose happiness. Joy. Gratitude. Faith. And thereby making me happier.
 

Bird_n_hand

Registered User
I always heard. Do what you love. And love doing what your doing and wealth will come to you, the only thing I really love is sharing my ideas. And being positive. Maybe I should finish writing a book. I don't know if wealth will come from that but I'd feel good about doing it
 

coachn

Coach John S. Nagy
Premium Member
How many of you have read or watched the movie the secret,
I have. I also taught the subject years before the movie came out. The movie is misleading.
I've been really Into this for a little while. I feel like it has positively effected my life.
Describe/define "positive effect".
It makes me feel like life is more fulfilling.
No. It truly doesn't. Nothing makes you feel anything. That is your own doing.
But has anyone ever gotten the financial wealth from using it.
If they claim they have, they are lying.
I havnt. I have only gotten from it that life is a choice and I can choose happiness. Joy. Gratitude. Faith. And thereby making me happier.
Nothing makes you happier; only you do. Happiness comes from a state of being brought about by choice. When you are one to have happiness that occurs when you have things occur, you are basing your happiness on external factors. And you are attracting more of the same by being this way.
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No, happiness does not create wealth.
Agreed!
However both happiness and wealth come from the same set of causative factors.
Yep. And they are not what many come to believe.
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I always heard. Do what you love. And love doing what your doing and wealth will come to you,
I have heard that too. It's not so simple and those who espouse and promote are not telling it right.

Attraction is a game of preparation and chance. What you must do to play well is consciously play by game rules.
  1. Wealth starts by being wealth minded - BE.
  2. This brings about actions which promote wealth and minimized waste - DO.
  3. This increases the probability of wealth and decreases the probability of waste - HAVE.
Whatever you "love" to do, it has to be done in such a way as to provide some value to others when you want to do it so well that people willing toss money at you for doing it. It's not as simple as just doing it without an end in mind. That end in mind must have continuity with all the actions that support it.

If you chose to love all this, it's icing on the cake. But you don't have to. That's still optional.
...the only thing I really love is sharing my ideas.
Then you must create or be within a system that rewards you financially for sharing them.
...And being positive.
Define "positive". BTW - This can work against you should you define it improperly in terms of life, the universe, and everything - you know - REALITY.
...Maybe I should finish writing a book.
That would be a good idea, if doing so serves some valuable purpose.
...I don't know if wealth will come from that but I'd feel good about doing it
Classic mistake. Who you are choosing to BE, is someone who sees an end in mind but who has no solid plan to bring the EIM about with the "feel good" being the driving force. What you will ATTRACT is the result that such BEING brings about.

You might benefit from reading a classic: Think and Grow Rich
 
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Bird_n_hand

Registered User
Now that I put some more thought into it. I think you both are right. Wealth and happiness has to be mutually exclusive. Someone can be happy and broke. Or wealthy and miserable, I don't need money to be happy because happiness is a state of being that is a choice. So if I can learn to be happy with little money. Then i can also be happy I'm abundance. So comcludes my meditations on this, Thanks for the answere guys!
 

dfreybur

Premium Member
Wealth and happiness has to be mutually exclusive. Someone can be happy and broke. Or wealthy and miserable, I don't need money to be happy because happiness is a state of being that is a choice.

I think you intend "mutually independent". As in their is no conflict between them and they have no effect on each other. Which is nearly true - Poverty can cause unhappiness so it's not completely true.
 

Bird_n_hand

Registered User
Poverty can cause unhappiness so it's not completely true.
Idk about this, their was a time when I lived in the back of my SUV with my girlfriend and we were both happy. In poverty the only thing you lose is things, things don't make a man and things can be replaced with more things. Only in emptiness can you really find yourself and learn what is truely important, I still believe happiness is a choice to this day. And poverty doesn't choose unhappiness for you. You have to choose it for yourself
 

dfreybur

Premium Member
Idk about this, their was a time when I lived in the back of my SUV with my girlfriend and we were both happy. In poverty the only thing you lose is things, things don't make a man and things can be replaced with more things. Only in emptiness can you really find yourself and learn what is truely important, I still believe happiness is a choice to this day. And poverty doesn't choose unhappiness for you. You have to choose it for yourself

Different level of poverty. Enough poverty and starvation starts. As does illness.
 

dfreybur

Premium Member
If happiness came from choosing what is fun, easy, and simple, beggars would ride. :)

In the first degree lecture I learned, one of our virtues is planning and acting with our future happiness in mind. Fun is part of that. Easy doesn't come into it at all. And simple is the goal of geniuses not something most of us can even plan for,
 

pointwithinacircle2

Rapscallion
Premium Member
Monetary wealth and happiness aren’t related, happiness is entirely a state of mind.
I believe that it to strong a statement to say that happiness and wealth "aren't related". For me one element of happiness is my degree of "freedom from worry". In my experience, money does not create happiness, but if used correctly it can assist happiness.
 

Bloke

Premium Member
I believe that it to strong a statement to say that happiness and wealth "aren't related". For me one element of happiness is my degree of "freedom from worry". In my experience, money does not create happiness, but if used correctly it can assist happiness.
......and its absence can sure make things tricky in this modern western world... :D
 

LK600

Premium Member
I believe that it to strong a statement to say that happiness and wealth "aren't related". For me one element of happiness is my degree of "freedom from worry". In my experience, money does not create happiness, but if used correctly it can assist happiness.

I found that regardless of how much money you have, it's never enough at the time (spending moves on a sliding scale to accommodate the increase in funds). At this point in time, I have more money than I ever had in my life, and I can say this... in many respects, I miss the times when I was dirt poor.
 

CLewey44

Registered User
Gosh, I don't miss it but it's funny how you can get by and have no worries when the only money you have to your name is the pile of change on your dresser. That was me circa 2001-2003 lol. I was so broke one day, (waiting tables), I had to close my bank account that had the minimum $25 in it. These people charged me a $10 'closing fee' and I walked away with 15 bucks. Unreal. Thank God for the U.S. Air Force.
 

Glen Cook

G A Cook
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I've been rich and unhappy. I've been poor and unhappy. Rich and unhappy is better. But it is still unhappy. I've seen those with comparative monetary wealth take their lives. I've seen monetarily wealthy folk suffering from a poverty of affection.

OTOH, as Brother Doug indicated, I've seen those so desperately financially impoverished that happiness simply cannot be found.
 
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