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A Brother Asks: Why Is Excluding Women Legitimate?

streeter

Registered User
How were you received into the Lodge?
On the point of a xxxxx presented to my naked left xxxxx
And that's one historical reason why from the 1813 London Emulation Ritual.
OOOOOOOPS
 

Keith C

Registered User
How were you received into the Lodge?
On the point of a xxxxx presented to my naked left xxxxx
And that's one historical reason why from the 1813 London Emulation Ritual.
OOOOOOOPS

Not quite sure how that is a reason. Do you know that Lodges that admit women do not follow this practice?
 

Glen Cook

G A Cook
Site Benefactor
How were you received into the Lodge?
On the point of a xxxxx presented to my naked left xxxxx
And that's one historical reason why from the 1813 London Emulation Ritual.
OOOOOOOPS
I think you mean 1816, if not 1823. I would need to see that edition of the ritual, noting it would be a much later ritual and perhaps contrived.

In any case, given the obesity of many candidates, I’m not sure one could tell the difference. (That comes across a little harsh, doesn’t it?).
 

streeter

Registered User
I think you mean 1816, if not 1823. I would need to see that edition of the ritual, noting it would be a much later ritual and perhaps contrived.

Very interesting and I admit to not being certain of the precise date.
However the Lodge of Reconciliation which [as far as I know] only lasted for two years. For the new [at that time] Ritual System. Being 1813 - 1816. And so that was the period to which I was referring.

I would hasten to add respectfully to all readers that this is as far as I know the only reference to sex in Masonic Ritual. SMIB
 

coachn

Coach John S. Nagy
Premium Member
We are a FRATERNITY....period. As far as I am concerned no further explanation or justification need be given.
Specious. That's circular reasoning. The discourse in the link addresses this. Fraternity is a classification, not a reason.

The male centric organization of Freemasonry has chosen to be male centric and therefor is all male in its core workings. Because it is all male, it is referred to as a fraternity.

This same goes for the female centric organization of Freemasonry which has chosen to be female centric and therefor is all female in its core workings. Because it is all female, it is referred to as a sorority.

We are the male centric organization and classified as a frat because we have chosen to be just that. As long as we continue to chose that way, we will remain a frat. But don't foolishly argue we are a frat and therefor cannot have females. We can chose differently and therefor change our fraternal designation.

That being said, until we chose differently, we remain classified as a frat, but only because we chose to be one; not because we won't allow females, but only because we choose continuously not to.
 

Keith C

Registered User
We are the male centric organization and classified as a frat because we have chosen to be just that. As long as we continue to chose that way, we will remain a frat. But don't foolishly argue we are a frat and therefor cannot have females. We can chose differently and therefor change our fraternal designation.

That being said, until we chose differently, we remain classified as a frat, but only because we chose to be one; not because we won't allow females, but only because we choose continuously not to.

Just to introduce a little levity.

When I joined a fraternity in college I was told:

"NEVER call a Fraternity a "Frat." Would you call your Country a "C^#t"?"
 

coachn

Coach John S. Nagy
Premium Member
Just to introduce a little levity.

When I joined a fraternity in college I was told:

"NEVER call a Fraternity a "Frat." Would you call your Country a "C^#t"?"
Frat_01.JPG
 

CLewey44

Registered User
With current negative trajectories in membership, according to TMR from this week, the whole fraternity will possibly be gone in the next 25 years. Who knows?
 

Warrior1256

Site Benefactor
Hopefully that is long after I’m gone.
My sentiments exactly. If the day comes before this I will simply demit. One of the main reasons that I joined Masonry is because it is a fraternity.
With current negative trajectories in membership, according to TMR from this week, the whole fraternity will possibly be gone in the next 25 years. Who knows?
Certainly a possibility. Hopefully not. In my opinion the extinction of Masonry would be a real loss to society.
 
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