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Italian Freemasonry

JanneProeliator

Registered User
Sorry, I forgot to answer regarding the differences. Again, I am only 2nd degree, but I have seen a difference in ritual. Some use a slight difference in their rituals. For instance, we saw one group walk in the opposite direction. Some items they used were slightly different from ours. Some groups are much more formal and strict, while others less so. SOMI is precise but relaxed. I hope this helps. I have called on our GM to join us here to help answer any questions.
Thank you for your reply.

How big is SOMI in Italy? And how about internationally?
 

YHWH

Registered User
The Grand Orient of Italy (GOI) is the main, oldest and most numerous Obedience/Constiturion in Italy.

Origin: 1805, founded by Napoleon Bonaparte and Eugene de Beauharnais as a derivation from the Grand Orient of France.

Regularity:
GOI admits only men, believers in God (regardless of his religious faith), opens the VSL on the Ara, works on the Glory or in the Name of GAOTU.

Rituals: Craft GOI, similar to AASR, and Emulation.

Appendant Bodies or Improvement Rites:
- AASR
- York Rite
- Memphis-Misraim
- Scottish Adjusted
- Noachita
- Italian Symbolic Rite

International Recognitions: a large part of the world's regular Grand Lodges, but not the British ones.
In fact, in the 80s there was a scandal connected to the P2 Lodge - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_Due - and to other Lodges not linked to the GOI. A split resulted and the establishment of the Regular Grand Lodge of Italy, recognized by the British and a few others; currently RGLI has few affiliates, works in Emulation, practices the Masonry of the Brand and the Royal Arch, as "Perfection Rites".
 

Roy_

Registered User
OK, after checking and recheck ing with our GM, it appears that the female lodge listed on your list above is the ONLY Grand Female only Lodge in all of Italy. If there are others, they seem to be unrecognized or irregular. The GLMFI is the only one official.

As for SOMI, my obedience, we are a mixed Grand Lodge of Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite that has existed since the post-war period. Our Sovereign Grand Commander was Peter RoschildI. If you go to the site, you will find all the historical indications. http://www.somi-massoneria.eu/

I hope this was helpful.

Ok thanks. And how many mixed gender orders are there in Italy? Did I catch them all? As I don't speak Italian, it's not easy to check all the websites to see if they mention women :) I had to look for an indication on the SOMI site too using Google translator.
 

Elexir

Registered User
So it seems that UGLE recognizes Regular Grand Lodge of Italy. So does the Grand Lodge of Finland.
What is the correlation with other Italian grand lodger and masonic arganisarions? Who recognises who?

Regarding the regular GLs:
Most eurloean GLs recognises the Regular GL of Italy but
Most american GLs recognises the Grand Orient of Italy wich is not related to GOdF.
 

JanneProeliator

Registered User
Regarding the regular GLs:
Most eurloean GLs recognises the Regular GL of Italy but
Most american GLs recognises the Grand Orient of Italy wich is not related to GOdF.
This is interresting.
Wonder why?

Also to the point that YHWH wrote. If GOoI is not affiliated GOdF bvut still is derivated from it is quite interresting. There is a group in Finland that claims to be affiliated to GOdF and they are comasonry that allows atheists. Something very different from GOoI.
 

Elexir

Registered User
This is interresting.
Wonder why?

Also to the point that YHWH wrote. If GOoI is not affiliated GOdF bvut still is derivated from it is quite interresting. There is a group in Finland that claims to be affiliated to GOdF and they are comasonry that allows atheists. Something very different from GOoI.

Remember that until the 1800s GOdF was regular. If I dont remember it wrong the GL of Sweden traces its orgin to GOdF. So even if GOoI has its orgins with GOdF it dont mean a thing.
The term grand orient has to do with a diffrence in certain aspects of how its governd.
 

Brother JC

Moderating Staff
Staff Member
Regarding the regular GLs:
Most eurloean GLs recognises the Regular GL of Italy but
Most american GLs recognises the Grand Orient of Italy wich is not related to GOdF.

As a member of both UGLE and two US jurisdictions I would be in an interesting predicament if I were to visit Italy.
 

Bloke

Premium Member
The Grand Orient of Italy (GOI) .... Origin: 1805, founded by Napoleon Bonaparte and....

Now this in itself is a very interesting statement. What sort of documentation is held about this foundation ?
 
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