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lwdisney

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oh and about Josh's first post....Einstein had two theories. general relavity dealt with gravity and special dealt with spacetime/frame of reference. they are incompatable with each other. just fyi
 

rhitland

Founding Member
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That's where the relavity part comes in....its not actually the same amount of time for each person. Time for an observer in motion slows down, time is relative to the frame of reference, but again not alterable by our minds.

What a second so if I am in a rocket ship going the SoL and I am wearing a watch made set to work on earth time would it spin faster? To add to that last question; If time is different from my perception on earth compared to yours on a rocket going the SoL whose time is right?

And to bring the dork part back in I still see this as all being altered by our minds. Not in a meditational astral plaining trance like your thinking Mr Genius. Here is how I believe the mind has effected or altered time. Traveling the SoL would require an awesome machine right? How would one build that machine? From the power of the mind of man. From where all of reality is derived at least in my opinion. :huh:
 
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lwdisney

Registered User
all right ladies, pay attention.

the clock on the spaceship ticks faster RELATIVE to the "stationary" clock on Earth. both times are right in their respective frame of reference because that's what it depends on.

just a communication issue, you could have been clearer about the mind thing. anyway, yes, traveling the speed of light (different from accelerating to it b/c thats impossible) would require much more advanced technology (anti-gravity) and understanding of physics. so indirectly, the mind might alter time. or wait...there are particles that move very near c, at c and faster than c (in a non-vacuum) and time for those particles is different. they have no mind. just because we may have the capability to put ourselves in a reference frame where time is different as compared to Earth, does not mean we affect it. you would not notice the difference because it all appears the same in that frame.

but how is reality derived from the human mind? did it not exist before man? if that were true, then reality must cease to exist when a man dies, but it appears that's not true. its like the tree falling in the forrest question (which I never understood why that is so hard).

and with that, Bro. Shelly, you can go cry.
 

rhitland

Founding Member
Premium Member
(which I never understood why that is so hard).

and with that, Bro. Shelly, you can go cry.

Because that is a question one cannot wrap their mind around with conventional knowledge. Hence why it came from a Buddhist Monk.

"If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" is a philosophical riddle that raises questions regarding observation and knowledge of reality.
George Berkeley was an Irish philosopher who created and promoted a theory he called "immaterialism" later referred to as "subjective idealism". His dictum was "Esse est percipi" - "To be is to be perceived".[1] He talked of objects ceasing to exist once there was nobody around to perceive them


Watch this video link the whole 10 mins is good but the only part I want you to see Lester is from 1:02 to 5:31 it is about observation and its effect on reality.
[video=youtube;MoTBaa5gS30]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoTBaa5gS30[/video]

Einstein is one of the greatest thinkers of our time no argument their but his theories only take us so deep. I want to start another thread to go deeper.
 

owls84

Moderator
Premium Member
Well, I think I should just remove my quote and then you have nothing to build on Rhit.
 
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