Advice on neighbors

Just moved into a beautiful luxury apartment with my girlfriend and dog and everything is perfect! Except for the upstairs neighbors..... kids running and jumping, banging on our celing. We understand that we might here some noise from people walking here and there, but to hear excessive running and jumping... come on! Anyways it is such a bummer to have this amazing place and have our celing banging on throughout the day. What is the MASONIC thing to do? I went and talked to the guy and his wife the first time they were like okay, the second time when I just went up there he cursed at me and basically told me to deal with it. What to do?!

I'm not a Mason yet, BUT I was in a similar situation before. The only way to resolve it is to move yourself to the second floor and be the hated neighbor.
Most apartments are just that way. It is bad enough with adults, but those kids are never going to remember not to run and stomp around. The parents are never going to see it from your point of view.
I am sorry for sharing a bad experience. I hope your situation turns out better than mine did!
The good thing was that when I did move upstairs, I was super courteous about not making a lot of noise when walking around.

You talked with them twice. If the racket is during the day there isn't much that can be done. But if the racket is going on after 10pm, then the next step is the apartment manager.

I have been through this several times...a neighbor that liked to play music too loud, one that liked to lift weights at 11 at night. The best though was the beast with 2backs that woke us up at 5am "EVERY" morning for over a year...you could set your clock to the beginnings of the spring squeaking....

You may have to learn to ignore some of it...but you don't have to put up with it after 10pm. Check the lease to make sure there is/isn't a clause on noise...

MikeMay said:

The best though was the beast with 2backs that woke us up at 5am "EVERY" morning for over a year

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LMAO, that had to suck.

When we lived in an apartment, my broom got quite a workout. Ceiling of the apartment looked like a golf ball by the time we moved.

We still remember quite 'fondly' the morning we were woken by a rooster crowing. Living on Westheimer smack in the middle of Houston, we thought nah, that couldn't have been a rooster. UNTIL we were woken again. Seems as though the upstairs neighbors were going to be making that rooster into dinner that evening.

I really don't have any suggestions other than moving.

THemenway said:

LMAO, that had to suck.

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Let's just say it was an interesting way to wake up for a long time....LOL!

this is off topic but I need a little Masonic advice as well I found out my wife's brother took two of our credit cards and racked up about $700 worth of stuff what is the right thing to do here I am very angry and want to press charges but yet it is my wife's brother any thoughts?

What does your wife have to say about it?

Not much she is mad griped him out and that's about it

tbone1321 said:

what is the right thing to do here

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I can't give you Masonic advice, but Theft is Theft, it was a criminal act. I don't see how you could not make a police report and/or press charges. The locations that he used the card at probably still have him on video if you hurry and get to them.
If he does this to family, imagine what he will do to a strangers, elderly, disabled, or defenseless person.

Yeah I know but it is hard my wife is so upset

tbone1321 said:

I am very angry and want to press charges but yet it is my wife's brother any thoughts?

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Goodness. I'm sorry to hear about that happening. It is a shame that something like that can be done to us by our own family. Of course, your decision needs to be made including your wife, but something needs to be done. Whether it is taking it to the law or sweeping it under the rug.

I have had something of the same sort happen to me in the past, and I look at it like this. We are all human and we all make mistakes. I would look at as much of the situation as possible and decide what would be best for the brother to learn from this mistake. If he is a young and immature guy, $700 does seem like a big chunk of money to a lot of us, but it could have been waaaay worse. If it seems like he can learn from the situation, talk with your wife about having him repay it and set some terms on it with him. If he doesn't comply with what ya'll lay out for him, then by all means go ahead and take it to the police. There is a statute of limitations that will give you that leeway of when you can file charges on him at a later date. Hopefully, he just made a stupid decision and will do the right thing. I am always in favor of someone learning the right way to be and rehabilitating. We all know the criminal justice system really doesn't fix too many problems, and at times it makes things worse for the person in the long run for a simple mistake after they have paid the price for what they did.

However, if he is someone that is habitually doing crap like this, in and out of jail, constantly on dope, and always has no regard for anything but himself or what benefits him, you should go ahead and file the charges. It is not your or your wife's responsibility to take care of her brother, and it is not right for him to cost you money and put you into debt. Regardless of how pee'd off you are, the most important thing here is you and your wife. If you think that she will get over it pretty quick, make the call. If it might be something that she would not forgive you for, I'd let this one slide, but have some really strict guidlines on him when he is visiting. She needs to compromise with you as well and also needs to be aware of keeping your lives safe and free from that kind of worry as well.


I wish you luck with whatever you decide. Hope this puts some thought into the air for ya.

Thank you for the kind words brother we are taking it day by day and hope that it will work itself out

Really sorry to hear of your loss my brother. Your loss is not only one of money but trust. I don't see how after a stunt like this you could trust this guy when you can't see him. From a Masonic stand point I am not sure what advice you will recieve. I firmy believe in teaching someone a lesson. Having charges presses upon him may be the wake up call he needs. Experts say people that display that type of behavior like stealing from family can't be helped until they have hit a rock bottom. I would say pray for him and also press charges to send him the message.

http://youtu.be/fdXUhIIc0MU

Pay these guys to stop by 5x a week at 3am...

Oh, you meant the masonic thing? Tell the property manager

edit: Actually, this is the one I was looking for
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3Qz7ksl63Y

JTM said:

http://youtu.be/fdXUhIIc0MUActually, this is the one I was looking for
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3Qz7ksl63Y

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I think my wife and I lived next to this clown at our first apartment!

I feel for you. While I have not ever had the experience of it being a family member that did something like that I did have a roommate do it before. Sneaky devil took checks from my checkbook, but not the ones I was currently using. He took them from about two books down in the box and then from the middle on top of that. It was months before I found out. My advice is the same as many others here. If nothing is said nothing will change.

Thank you again brothers for the advice I have decided to just cut him out of our lives and of course never allow him to be around us or our house I took the choice of letting him live with the guilt and not cause riffs with my wife and I just pray for his soul and hope he finds the right path someday

JTM said:

Pay these guys to stop by 5x a week at 3am...

Oh, you meant the masonic thing? Tell the property manager

edit: Actually, this is the one I was looking for
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3Qz7ksl63Y

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Hahhaha nice. That is just crazy. I got to admit that I was suprised to see that really take off..lol

tbone1321 said:

I took the choice of letting him live with the guilt and not cause riffs with my wife and I just pray for his soul and hope he finds the right path someday

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Might have been a tough decision, but I think it was a good one. I hope that everything goes well for you and the wife and ya'll recover from this incident. I also do hope that he does learn his lesson and finds the right path to follow.