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Blue Degrees vs. Red Degrees

Traveling Man

Traveling Man

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Bro_Vick said:
Yeah, after some research I believe that Germania Lodge No 46 is one of these lodges (Germania Lodge No. 46, F&AM), I tried to go to the 16th district website and could not find any additional information. It is interesting that it is forbidden in UGLE, I am afraid to ask if Texas has a similar restriction. :)
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I don't know if your search has been fulfilled, but you might want to contact Bro. Michael R. Poll of Cornerstone Publishers Cornerstone Book Publishers - Masonic Books, Esoteric Books, Pulp Fiction He is a Past Master of one of these lodges and has written about their history extensively, mind you in one of those Texas verboten publication organizations. :wink:
 
Mac

Mac

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I agree with the brother above. I have Bro Poll's printing of the Bon Seigneur Rituals, and they're quite interesting to read through
 
starmega5

starmega5

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I'm a NJ Freemason but am now living in Puerto Rico, most of the lodges here work the "Red Degrees"... A bit different than what we are used to but very entertaining to watch... NY has some that work them as well
 
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Rotta

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I know that by the masonic law an constitution 1-3 degree are operated by GL or GO.All the other superior degree are operated by the perfection rites like as Scotish,York,Memphis&Misraim,Emulation and others.

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jwhoff

jwhoff

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starmega5 said:
I'm a NJ Freemason but am now living in Puerto Rico, most of the lodges here work the "Red Degrees"... A bit different than what we are used to but very entertaining to watch... NY has some that work them as well
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Yes. I was almost sure New York had a few lodges working in these degrees.

Thanks brother for that verification.
 
jwhoff

jwhoff

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RedTemplar said:
To witness the Red Degrees is on my bucket list. Somebody please post these degrees well in advance as to when they are to be conferred. I would love to bring a caravan with me.
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Brother RedTemplar. Stay in touch on this one. I just took on a new job and may not have much vacation for a year or so. But this would be a great time to grab Wild Bill Lins and make a run to Louisiana so the three of us could get together and not waste our precious time!
 
jwhoff

jwhoff

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Of course.

Brother Cblack, you've got to be old enough to have kicked the bucket over a few times before you really start paying attention to the list therein.

How do I explain ... it's sort of an "old fart" revelation that sort of seeps in "with time."

It' like ... it's like learning to enjoy oatmeal.

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athelstane839

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New York is the melting pot of Masonic degrees,rites and orders. We have everything a brother seeks to evolve himself in aspect for the Scots order.
We have co-masonry, Memphis mizraim, Mercia Shriner the very first shrine group, grotto masons, York rite, Scottish rite, royal order of jesters, royal order of Scotland, allied Masonic degrees, cbsc and list goes on.
There is not such thing as blue lodge brothers it's called a master mason lodge and there no such thing as a red lodge whatever that maybe their is a royal arch mason chapter. New York grand lodge of Freemason works with the first three degrees e.a, f.c, m.m after you have completed those degrees and have been a m.m in good standing for a period of 1 yr you may be allowed to petition to other rites, orders or observances that are acknowledged by the Grand Lodge.


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denoel

denoel

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Hello I'm new to the forum I would just like to say hello to everyone. My name is calvin I hail from Ionic #112 in Philadelphia PHA


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rhitland

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not sure if I am speaking out of turn but I believe for a Texas Mason "Red Lodges" are considered clandestine and are forbidden. Maybe it was an edict that has expired but I believe Gene Carnes's year they were outlawed. Again I am not sure of this but I would ask a well informed brother who would know the naswer and not just tell you no. :)
 
rhitland

rhitland

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On another note I obtained a copy long ago of the ritual for LA "Red Lodges" on paper and just reading it blew my mind so i would be very happy if I could go to one.
 
Bill Lins

Bill Lins

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rhitland said:
not sure if I am speaking out of turn but I believe for a Texas Mason "Red Lodges" are considered clandestine and are forbidden. Maybe it was an edict that has expired but I believe Gene Carnes's year they were outlawed. Again I am not sure of this but I would ask a well informed brother who would know the naswer and not just tell you no. :)
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Actually, the edict was issued by M:.W:. O'Neill during his year and outlaws the "red Lodge" ritual from being worked in GLoTX Lodges. It is still in effect.
The Louisiana "red Lodges" are shown as regular in the List of Lodges Masonic and, AFAIK, it is OK to go visit & sit in them.
 
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