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nothuman

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Pyramids were temples where believers engaged in a powerful mystical practice called “Awakening Our Third Eye,†long banned by the Church, yet long safeguarded by Western Secret Societies. Dont know if this is what your referring to, but if not I want to know lol
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Michael Neumann

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Pyramids were temples where believers engaged in a powerful mystical practice called “Awakening Our Third Eye,” long banned by the Church, yet long safeguarded by Western Secret Societies. Dont know if this is what your referring to, but if not I want to know lol
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Sort of. But your post sounded interesting, can you expand upon it a little? My wife has studied Egyptology and can read basic Egyptian writings.
 

BryanMaloney

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Pyramids were temples where believers engaged in a powerful mystical practice

Egyptian pyramids were tombs. Temples were entirely separate from the pyramids. While not all tombs were pyramids, all pyramids were tombs. Any "awakening" rituals actually occurred before approaching a pyramid, in the mummification steps. These were performed on and for the benefit of the dead. A lot of nonsense was made up in the 19th century about the pyramids of Egypt. Central American pyramids were much more like temples, used for public ceremonies. They only share an incidental physical resemblance to the Egyptian form. Pyramids are very easy to build compared to narrower structures.
 

widows son

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Bryan what proof do you have that anyone was ever buried in any of the pyramids. There's not a single marking outside or inside of the great pyramid that says kufu was buried in it, and yet science continues to maintain this idea.
 

BryanMaloney

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Try John Romer's The Great Pyramid: Ancient Egypt Revisited. Of course, this work will now be dismissed, since it doesn't have contemporary photographs and video of Khufu being buried in the Pyramid, with appropriate 256-bit encrypted time-stamps.

I'm beginning to be reminded of the people who claim that there is no proof that Obama was born in the USA.
 

widows son

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A little excessive don't you think? Again there is no shred of evidence to prove that anyone was ever buried in any pyramid, especially the three pyramids of Giza. Not a single mark. The only markings they have found are supposed "gang marks" according Zahi Hawass which he believes are the builder marks who moved the stones. These are extremely faded and are found the alcove above the kings chamber.
 

BEDickey

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I would agree with widows son here, the Great Pyramids are much more then mere tombs. I was talking to a crane operator about how some of the stones used in making the Great Pyramids were go massive and heavy, modern cranes could not even lift them. The idea that slaves moved them into place on logs,through a 20 year span is foolish and laughable.

I find the idea that the pyramids in central America have no connection to the ones in Egypt is also wrong. Having found traces of cocaine and nicotine in the remains of mummies hair (indicating that they used both, in quantities that made it show up there there hair, 100s of years later.) and elephant artwork and artifacts from central America dating from around a similar time period as the ancient Egyptians, shows they must have had trade of some type, and religious and spiritual ties could also form along with economic ones, as we have often seen in the past.

This goes along with the information that Ancient Egyptian Pharaohs and family members are buried in Scotland and Ireland. Scotia (roman/latin name for ireland) Scota's or Scotia's land(Scotland), or even Nova Scotia (literally latin for New Scotland/New Ireland). You can go to Scotia's tomb in Ireland. She is believed to be the daughter of the Pharaoh Akenaten. For the more esotericly minded, let us not get into the fact that Nova Scotia is located exactly between the equator, and current north pole, and lay lines.

No I believe, and have the studies to prove, that much of what is taught and believed about the ancient world is woefully inaccurate and people must wide their view. Case in point, it is well known ancient people, both Egyptian and Mesoamerican used magnets to treat illness. Front page of my local newspaper yesterday is how an implantable magnet is giving new hope of curing people who suffer from mild to extreme acid reflux, with 0 side effects. We seem to only be a few 1000 years behind....
 
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BEDickey

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And Obama was born in the USA, he is simply the son, ideologically and biologically, of radical communist and pornographer Frank Marshall Davis.

As a Teacher of mine said, "forget about opening a third eye, try opening a third ear", to hear the things and lessons around you that the universe around you is begging to give you, but our own ego driven consciousness gets in the way of.
 
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Michael Neumann

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I would agree with widows son here, the Great Pyramids are much more then mere tombs. ...
Agreed that they were initially not used as tombs, I have watched far too much Nat Geo and read too many books to fall for the tomb only nonsense. It was only later that they were used to house the dead. Here is a list of popular theories over the years http://www.gizapyramid.com/articles/theories-why.htm Also, the theory that slaves built the pyramids is being challenged http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jan/11/great-pyramid-tombs-slaves-egypt
Having found traces of cocaine and nicotine in the remains of mummies hair (indicating that they used both, in quantities that made it show up there there hair, 100s of years later.) and elephant artwork and artifacts from central America dating from around a similar time period as the ancient Egyptians, shows they must have had trade of some type, and religious and spiritual ties could also form along with economic ones, as we have often seen in the past.
Here is a transcript on the cocaine and tobacco http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/misc/mummies.htm
 

BryanMaloney

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What actual contemporary evidence is there that the Pyramids were used for some kind of "mystical rituals" aside from burials? I'm not demanding you prove a negative. I'm not demanding that you prove they were not tombs. I only want to see the evidence for their "true" use if they were not tombs. Note that speculation from centuries after their construction is not contemporary evidence. That sort of thing starts to verge on cargo cultism.
 

BEDickey

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Now that is the true question to ask BryanMaloney, and I'm glad you asked it. What was their true purpose, how were they made, among other questions must be truthfully, but I have no idea what the answer is. But what I do know is the "official" argument holds no water.
 

Michael Neumann

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What actual contemporary evidence is there that the Pyramids were used for some kind of "mystical rituals" aside from burials? I'm not demanding you prove a negative. I'm not demanding that you prove they were not tombs. I only want to see the evidence for their "true" use if they were not tombs. Note that speculation from centuries after their construction is not contemporary evidence. That sort of thing starts to verge on cargo cultism.
Seems like a fun challenge, accepted. Here is my first hit on Google from the horses mouth "But then Dr. Hawass commented that “these chambers were found off what is called the Queen’s Chamber, but we don’t know if it was ever used by a Queen. There never has been a burial found in a great pyramid. We do not actually know they are tombs.” With that statement Dr. Hawass has signaled a sea change in position. While no one in the audience, (or the National Geographic for that matter,) seemed to notice, the Open Cheops Committee was paying attention. Dr. HAWASS' ANSWER TO THE OPEN CHEOPS CHALLENGE IS HIS PUBLIC ADMISSION THAT THERE IS NO EVIDENCE ANY OF THE GREAT PYRAMIDS AT GIZA WERE USED AS TOMBS." http://www.opencheops.org/page13.htm
 
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Michael Neumann

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The CAPS were cut and paste, no offense intended. What we have seen happening over the years are various archeologists realizing that they were indeed wrong about the intent behind the pyramids construction. They also realize that every school child in every country is taught they were tombs and they have a great deal of respect for the original archeologists who made this assertion. They are stuck with the problem "how do you rectify this obvious error without damaging the reputation of esteemed colleagues?" It is easy, you attack the problem in the same way the marketing gurus hack our brains... memes. You ever so subtly admit what everyone knows in open forums in the middle of a lecture. Most people only remember the beginning and end of a lecture, whatever you say in the middle is just filler... this is where they insert the idea. In another 20 years it will be common knowledge that the pyramids were used for (insert whatever it is here).
 
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Michael Neumann

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http://www.beforethedelusion.com/1/post/2013/03/egyptologists-admit-pyramids-were-not-tombs.html
"The big problem is that there are no royal bodies, or mummies, or even skeletons. None! Of course the orthodox apologists claim that the ‘tombs’ were obviously robbed in antiquity – which is somewhat of a convenient circular argument. The absence of bodies proves that they must have been robbed! But even that fatuous proposition would be elegantly proved [or disproved] if there were an intact sealed un-robbed tomb or ‘coffin’, which therefore ‘must’ contain a body.

Unfortunately for the tomb theorists it turns out that even the intact sealed ‘tombs’ were empty.

Flinders-Petrie excavated the 1st-2nd dynasty structures at Abydos, believed to be tombs, but he recorded that ‘no human burial was ever found.’[4]

The [alleged] coffer of Queen Hetep-Heres found By American George Reisner at Giza was still perfectly sealed and had to be winched open – but it was empty. Bare! [5]

The internal chamber of a 3rd dynasty pyramid at Saqqara was opened by Chief Inspector of Antiquities Mhd Zakaria Goneim in 1954, and found to be ‘absolutely empty’.[6]

Seven pyramids attributed to 3rd dynasty Pharaoh Huni were found empty with ‘nothing to suggest they were built to serve as tombs’.[7]

The 3rd dynasty Layer Pyramid at Zawiyet el-Aryan was explored to find galleries ‘clean and empty’ with no trace of a burial. [8]

The 4th dynasty Unfinished Pyramid at Zawiyet el-Aryan was found a with a granite coffer with the lid still mortar-sealed – but it was empty. [9]

The pyramid of Pharaoh Unas, last King of the 5th dynasty, contained an undamaged coffer opened by Maspero in 1881 – but found to be empty. [10]

Rationally we have to admit that there is no evidence of bodies or entombment; and contrariwise, there is definite evidence of an absence of bodies. The pyramids were not primary tombs.

The famous case of King Tut came very much later (ca 1330BC) and he was entombed under a cliff in the Valley of Kings – not in a pyramid.
[1] Mendelssohn, K. The Riddle of the Pyramids, 35, 81-83

[2] Edwards, I.E.S. The Pyramids of Egypt

[3] Lehner, M. The Complete Pyramids, 26

[4] Petrie, W.M.F. The Royal Tombs of the 1st Dynasty; Frankfort, H. Ancient Egyptian Religion, 92

[5] Reisner, G. Hatshepsut, Mother of Cheops. Boston Bulletin of Fine Arts, Suppl. Vol 1 (1927)

[6] Lehner, M. The Complete Pyramids, 62, 94;

Edwards, I.E.S. The Pyramids of Egypt, 62

Spencer, A.J. Early Egypt. The Rise of Civilisation in the Nile Valley, 105

[7] Edwards, I.E.S. The Pyramids of Egypt, 69

[8] Lehner, M. The Complete Pyramids, 95

[9] Edwards, I.E.S. The Pyramids of Egypt, 146-7

[10] Edwards, I.E.S. The Pyramids of Egypt, 175-6

[11] Edwards, I.E.S. The Pyramids of Egypt, 286

Lehner, M. The Complete Pyramids, 20
 
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widows son

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BEDickey, the nicotine and cocaine has a more plausible theory. In the 18th century the well to do class of America and Europe would collect artifacts from antiquity. It so happens that cocaine and nicotine where common substances used on a daily basis by almost everyone. So it's likely that the contamination is from people handling them in that era.
Bryan there is a plethora of theories as to the reason and method of construction of the pyramids. A google search could show you that. I personally enjoy the thought that they were a symbol of creation and nature. There's many mathematical equations and ratios incorporated into the pyramids, phi, pi and fibbonacci to name three. I don't know how they were built, but I don't believe it was aliens or gods or alien gods. My opinion is that whoever these people were who built those magnificent structures, their society's goals were very different in what we see throughout history and right up until now. They thought big and acted on it. I can't say for sure that they knew some sort of science that we don't, or that they were much more advanced, but they seemed to have a very good understanding of nature, and respected it to the point of deeming it worthy to worship it in structures whose dimensions are the same as those that are used nature.

Also it has been show that the valley of the kings was the desired spot to bury royals and well to do's. in fact there a hive of under ground tunnels that run underneath the ground in the valley.

Many Masonic authors claim it was one of many structures used in the mystery institution ceremonies. Plausible but hearsay, although to me it makes sense.
 
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dfreybur

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I would agree with widows son here, the Great Pyramids are much more then mere tombs ...

The Great pyramid has a huge sarcophagus at its center. Thinking it was used as a tomb is not a stretch. Observing the sarcophagus is empty and may have been so always means it is also not a stretch to think it was never used. We don't know.

I find the idea that the pyramids in central America have no connection to the ones in Egypt is also wrong.

There was probably communication before Lief Ericson arrived but the farther back you go the harder it is to find good evidence.

No I believe, and have the studies to prove, that much of what is taught and believed about the ancient world is woefully inaccurate and people must wide their view.

The stone age lasted an extremely long time. Migration theories tend to ignore boats until we get to the Polynesians. The era of agriculture started somewhere in excess of 10K years ago. Very likely much longer. I offer a wild guess that eventually evidence will be found pushing it back closer to 20K years ago. A lot can happen and be forgotten and lost in that length of time.
 
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