Michael Neumann
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Are you kidding me? Check this link out http://www.infowars.com/italian-supreme-court-president-blames-bilderberg-for-terrorist-attacks/ Pentagon document, Field Manual FM 30-31B
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Italian Supreme Court links Bilderberg group and Masons
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Michael Neumann
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lol
Michael Hatley
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Fnord, pass the apples, the Discordians are coming!
Michael Neumann
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When I want an ...alternative... view on politics then I hit infowars. You get fed the mass message with the government seal of approval on it from CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, and the like. We have a number of guys here that try to tie Freemasons to the Bilderberg group, Illuminate, and a slew of other organizations. Despite the fact that I have read volumes on our craft, much from those who actually organized it in the Americas, they continue to cite nonsense websites hosted by numbskull theorists. Now they are trying to use this to support their failing arguments.
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Michael Hatley
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The Economist is a pretty decent newsrag in my opinion. Not saying as a single source by any means, but I try to keep the television turned off anymore - and the alternative news sites are filled with so much woowoo
Michael Neumann
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I will have to add it to my newsfeed, thank you.
Agreed, I surf them when I am reallllly bored.
Michael Hatley
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The Economist is really one of the few periodicals worthwhile subscribing to their print edition, in my opinion. Independent reporting, dense and substantive coverage of global affairs.
Most foreign policy professionals from ambassadors to energy execs I've met read it and Foreign Affairs regularly (put out by the Council of Foreign Relations - which is another name for Illuminati in some of the woowooiest circles)
If nothing else it is informative because its where a lot of our legislators get their non-staffed open source information from first.
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Most foreign policy professionals from ambassadors to energy execs I've met read it and Foreign Affairs regularly (put out by the Council of Foreign Relations - which is another name for Illuminati in some of the woowooiest circles)
If nothing else it is informative because its where a lot of our legislators get their non-staffed open source information from first.
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BryanMaloney
Premium Member
Field Manual FM 30-31B? REALLY??????????????????
People still believe that fraud? It's as authentic as the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion".
Funny thing, both the fake US Field Manual and the Protocols were probably created by Russians--the first by the Tsar's secret police, the second by KGB as an anti-US propaganda measure.
Michael Neumann
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Hey man, I was there when the Protocols of the Elders of Zion was written, I was a contributor and it is real man... deeper than you know...:scared::scared::scared:
BEDickey
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While I do believe that the Bilderbergers get together to shape work economic and development in secrecy, I doubt 9/11 was planned by them. It seems it was planned more at the local level(rogue government elements), rather then at that level. But it could have been planned to help execute plans and designs sent down from these people.
To those who don't believe that the government is capable of lying to and killing its own citizens, google "The Northwoods Document", realize what you are reading, and get back to me.
And I challenge anyone here to find a claim made by Alex Jones that is not backed up by some published works somewhere, either public news reports or memoirs from the people active in government, active these groups, or people following teachings from the above group.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to say he doesn't also sprinkle on his own brand of paranoia, but the info and most of the analysis is spot on, from some of the brightest names in all fields.
To those who don't believe that the government is capable of lying to and killing its own citizens, google "The Northwoods Document", realize what you are reading, and get back to me.
And I challenge anyone here to find a claim made by Alex Jones that is not backed up by some published works somewhere, either public news reports or memoirs from the people active in government, active these groups, or people following teachings from the above group.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to say he doesn't also sprinkle on his own brand of paranoia, but the info and most of the analysis is spot on, from some of the brightest names in all fields.
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Michael Hatley
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Northwoods is on a completely different scale as 9/11.
Also, my Brother, putting out a challenge to prove a conspiracy theorist wrong, especially with the threshold being "backed up by some published works somewhere" is not proof that Alex Jones is a truth teller - when of course, noone winds up making the attempt. Firstly, anyone can independently publish, and clearly publish is not a synonym for truth.
I tell you we have had conspiracy theorists of all makes and models come through our doors lately. Anti government views are en vogue right now. The economy has had a lot to do with it, the debt, and what have you. Dan Brown nonsense is a heck of a motivator to become a mason. Its one reason I made the Discordian joke, and if it wasn't for the fact that I fear people wouldn't get the joke I'd suggest more folks read the Illiminatus trilogy. Sadly about half the folks that read take it literally and the joke is on them :52:
Here is the thing: the government is us, made up of us, for us. People today don't get involved in it like they used to. They rarely serve on the board of their HOA. They rarely go down to city hall and weigh in on issues. They rarely know or influence their congressmen. They write letters, if that. They browse web forums and consume media of one type or another. Government becomes a leviathan with evil elements, and healthy distrust turns into something else.
I, for one, tire of those types of people. They rarely are "doers" and are very often "consumers". They, like all people who search intently for a pattern that they decide is there at the outset, find it. You can find Jesus in the clouds or Buddha in the cracks in the sidewalk if you look hard enough.
We face an age where one of the prime personality types that come through our doors are conspiracy theorists. 50 years ago it was community men. Not "activists" in that the bulk of their activities were jumping up and down with a sign pointing out how government was evil. But "activists" in that they served on school boards and as deacons of their church.
And that difference is, in equal measure to the rise of the Internet and the distractions of social media, gaming and so forth - the reason why we are in decline.
So I don't have a whole lot of patience with conspiracy theorists, personally. I see them as the reason why we are dwindling in numbers. They talk a lot and don't do much of anything productive most of the time.
I don't mean to apply that to you, Brother, and these are just my opinions with no offense intended. Usually I just crack a joke or two about it to the other lurking submarine drivers :001_smile:
Also, my Brother, putting out a challenge to prove a conspiracy theorist wrong, especially with the threshold being "backed up by some published works somewhere" is not proof that Alex Jones is a truth teller - when of course, noone winds up making the attempt. Firstly, anyone can independently publish, and clearly publish is not a synonym for truth.
I tell you we have had conspiracy theorists of all makes and models come through our doors lately. Anti government views are en vogue right now. The economy has had a lot to do with it, the debt, and what have you. Dan Brown nonsense is a heck of a motivator to become a mason. Its one reason I made the Discordian joke, and if it wasn't for the fact that I fear people wouldn't get the joke I'd suggest more folks read the Illiminatus trilogy. Sadly about half the folks that read take it literally and the joke is on them :52:
Here is the thing: the government is us, made up of us, for us. People today don't get involved in it like they used to. They rarely serve on the board of their HOA. They rarely go down to city hall and weigh in on issues. They rarely know or influence their congressmen. They write letters, if that. They browse web forums and consume media of one type or another. Government becomes a leviathan with evil elements, and healthy distrust turns into something else.
I, for one, tire of those types of people. They rarely are "doers" and are very often "consumers". They, like all people who search intently for a pattern that they decide is there at the outset, find it. You can find Jesus in the clouds or Buddha in the cracks in the sidewalk if you look hard enough.
We face an age where one of the prime personality types that come through our doors are conspiracy theorists. 50 years ago it was community men. Not "activists" in that the bulk of their activities were jumping up and down with a sign pointing out how government was evil. But "activists" in that they served on school boards and as deacons of their church.
And that difference is, in equal measure to the rise of the Internet and the distractions of social media, gaming and so forth - the reason why we are in decline.
So I don't have a whole lot of patience with conspiracy theorists, personally. I see them as the reason why we are dwindling in numbers. They talk a lot and don't do much of anything productive most of the time.
I don't mean to apply that to you, Brother, and these are just my opinions with no offense intended. Usually I just crack a joke or two about it to the other lurking submarine drivers :001_smile:
BryanMaloney
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I challenge anyone here to find an antimasonic claim that is not backed up by some published works somewhere.
Your challenge may be invalid.
Michael Neumann
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Darn good post... darn good
widows son
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I like this.