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  1. Frater Cliff Porter

    Albert Pike: More harm than good?

    Bryan you didn't answer my questions. If you don't like Pike fine. My guess is that you have never taken the time to read more than a sound bite.
  2. Frater Cliff Porter

    Albert Pike: More harm than good?

    Bryan, Pikes work was in keeping with the tradition of the times as far as citation goes. I am not certain what you mean by, "Why not just honestly mark speculation as speculation and not pretend it to be anything else, then?" How do you "mark" speculation as "speculation?" What is...
  3. Frater Cliff Porter

    Albert Pike: More harm than good?

    Pike was an extraordinary man to which Freemasonry, not just SR Freemasonry owes a great debt. Albert Pike's SR damn near rescued Masonry from the massive decimation of the anti-Masonic period and made it, to some degree, to be "cool" to be a Mason again. There are more than 700 unpublished...
  4. Frater Cliff Porter

    Do you believe in Darwinian evolution?

    I believe in God (just not the anthropomorphic white dude with a beard who creates things in 7 days as a literal story), and I believe science has uncovered strong evidence of natural selection and evolution. I have no reason to believe the two don't leave in harmony. I recommend Gould's...
  5. Frater Cliff Porter

    Some Religious Questions

    1. What would happen if you died today? If you believe that you have a Spirit, where would it go? I would probably be more relaxed. Yes I have a spirit. Don't have a clue what happens. Hoping for reincarnation. 2. What would happen to those who are of a different religion than your own...
  6. Frater Cliff Porter

    Hidden (possible masonic) Chamber Discovered

    More evidence that the Chamber of Reflection is well used :-)
  7. Frater Cliff Porter

    Anyone ever heard of the order of woodman

    One of our lodge members, Walter Modern Stewart, who has passed to the celestial lodge above, was Manly P. Hall's personal assistant (sort of cool part of his life) and derived his middle name because his family members formed the order. We have Woodmen Road in the Springs because its named...
  8. Frater Cliff Porter

    Religion Tolerance

    A religion doesn't do anything in my estimation. Its is only a collection of ideas. How those ideas are applied depend on the individual members. It is why you find intolerance in Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, etc. and find tolerance them as well.
  9. Frater Cliff Porter

    Masonic education

    You generally sit in a U shape, have a series of less formalized toast and then encouraged discussion. There is an opening and closing ritual. It happens after tyled lodge and outside of the lodge room so the normal prohibitions on discussion in the temple are not in place and the sanctity of...
  10. Frater Cliff Porter

    Masonic education

    The Agape is a formalized dinner after lodge wherein toasting, educational discussion and fellowship are had. The MRF does have some standardized rituals.
  11. Frater Cliff Porter

    Masonic education

    Do not limit yourself by personal experience in choosing what “Masonic” education is and I would provide that you need not limit education to things that are “Masonic” unless specifically forbidden by your Grand Lodge. Even then, with Masonry encompassing the arts and sciences there is little...
  12. Frater Cliff Porter

    5 Masonic books you can't live without

    Man this is TOUGH...I love to read. So I will do my best here. My first choice is easy. I am going with Morals and Dogma. Next is probably Esoterika. Starting to sweat, but I am going with Alchemical Keys to Masonic Ritual, then Lost Keys of Freemasonry and....not sure I can do this...
  13. Frater Cliff Porter

    Failed first attempt to prove up on the EA

    I practice with both music and a television going in the background because when I can get through ritual doing that, I can do it period. Always, always practice by speaking out loud. Don't whisper it or "say it" in your mind. Stand there and say it out loud. If you must....close your...
  14. Frater Cliff Porter

    Church Objection?

    I was forced from my church for being a Mason. Told I had to choose. I don't do well with ultimatums. I learned over time, the church does have much to fear from Freemasonry. The Craft creates thinkers, free men of free mind and conscious. These men in turn will question rigorism...
  15. Frater Cliff Porter

    Persecution of Christians--real persecution.

    Yes the situation with the Coptics is grave...any situation wherein humans are persecuted because of their philosophical, religious or political opinions is horrible. I will meditate/pray for them. I feel blessed to be in in the U.S. wherein even our prejudices seem paled by comparison.
  16. Frater Cliff Porter

    Infectious negative energy

    You already know the answer. I would make certain he did not become a Mason. I would have a nice long talk as difficult as it is with him as to why.
  17. Frater Cliff Porter

    Grand Orient National Convention (Los Angeles)

    I would simply say to enjoy the journey and don't rush it. If what you are doing brings you peace, fulfillment and stokes the fire...then keep doing it and do it well.
  18. Frater Cliff Porter

    Grand Orient National Convention (Los Angeles)

    Which grand orient is that? Disregard, found it.
  19. Frater Cliff Porter

    Been reading some weird stuff Aleister Crowley, Mithraism, Adam Weishaupt

    3rd degree of Masonry is the highest degree of blue lodge Masonry. Can I ask your interest specifically?
  20. Frater Cliff Porter

    Advice For Esoteric Masons

    I agree 100 percent that we should be careful with our time and, just like the author, I too spend my time in Blue Lodge and SR. I love ritual and would hate to see the beauty of YR ritual die away in the areas where these lodges serve their true purpose and am aware of some Chapters in...
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