AF and AM vs F and AM States

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  1. jonesvilletexas

    jonesvilletexas Premium Member

    AF and AM vs F and AM States
    AF and AM vs F & AM States? In actuality, it does not matter whether you join an AF & AM lodge or an F & AM lodge in the United States..
    In the United States, every regular lodge is under the jurisdiction of its state Grand Lodge. Due to the fact that there is no Grand Lodge Headquarters for each state's separate Grand Lodge, each state's Grand Lodge is, therefore, its own "headquarters" within that state's jurisdiction.
    All Freemasons, both AF & AM (which means Ancient Free and Accepted Masons, as well as F & AM, which means Free and Accepted Masons, trace their allegorical history back to the building of Solomon's temple in the Bible.
    All Freemasons trace their symbolic history to the operative (actual) working stone mason era back when these stone masons built the breathtakingly beautiful and highly artistic medieval cathedrals of Europe.
    All Freemasons trace their "official" (written) history back to the formation of the first Grand Lodge in London, England, the United Grand Lodge of England, or U.G.L.E, which was formed in 1717.
    Ancient Free and Accepted Masons versus Free and Accepted Masons
    From 1751 to 1813, there were actually 2 Grand Lodges in England. The difference in F & AM vs AF & AM states goes back to a disagreement between these 2 Grand Lodges in London at that time. One group was called the "Moderns", but was actually the older of the 2 English Grand Lodges. The other group was called the "Antients", which became the "Ancients" in AF and AM. Due to this disagreement, the 2 groups broke into separate Grand Lodges. The disagreement was later healed around 1880, but by that time, there were lodges and Grand Lodges all over the United States that were descended from one group or the other, and so each group kept their corresponding initials with which they were formed.
    Most Grand Lodges in the U.S. recognize each other and treat each other's members as valid Masons.
    Also, all of the U.S. Grand Lodges recognize (and are recognized by) the official Grand Lodges of England, Ireland, Scotland and the Grand Lodges in most of Europe, Asia, Africa, South America, Thailand, India, etc.
    Prince Hall Masonic Lodge
    Historically, the regular (mainstream) Grand Lodges did not recognize the lodges under the "Prince Hall" Grand Lodges. The Prince Hall Masonic Lodge descends from a lodge of Black Freemasons in Boston begun by a Black man by the name of Prince Hall. Prince Hall Free Masonry began during the War of Independence, when Prince Hall and fourteen other free black men were initiated into Lodge # 441, Irish Constitution, attached to the 38th Regiment of Foot of the British Army garrisoned at Castle called Fort Independence, at Boston Harbor on March 6, 1775. Later, they applied for and received a Charter from the Grand Lodge of England. After Prince Hall passed away, the lodge ceased to function. Many years later, Black Masons established their own Prince Hall Masonic Grand Lodge. They, subsequently issued charters to Black men for subordinate lodges.
    Today, many Prince Hall Masonic Grand Lodge are recognized by the regular (mainstream) Grand Lodges. Any Prince Hall Masonic Grand Lodge which is not recognized by their regular counterparts are termed as irregular (non-mainstream) lodges.
    AF and AM vs F and AM states grand lodges may be determined as to which state is which, below.

    AF & AM States
    AF & AM - Ancient Free and Accepted Masons
    These 26 AF & AM states include: CO, CT, DE, ID, IL, IA, KS, ME, MD, MA, MN, MO, MT, NE, NH, NJ, NM, NC, ND, OK, OR, SD, TX, VA, WV, WY.
    F & A M States:
    F & AM - Free and Accepted Masons
    These 23 F & AM states include: AL, AK, AZ, CA, DC, FL, GA, HI, IN, KY, LA, MI, MS, NV, NY, OH, PA, RI, TN, UT, VT, WA, WI.
    All Prince Hall lodges are also F. & A.M.
    AFM State:
    AFM - Ancient Free Masons
    There is 1 AFM state: SC
    FAAM - Free And Accepted Masons
    District of Columbia

    The few intrinsic differences between AF and AM vs F and AM states grand lodges, the AFM grand lodge in South Carolina, and the FAAM in Washington, D.C., however, are minimal and while both AF and AM vs F and AM states exist, in essence, this is not as important as the shared brotherhood between all of these groups.
  2. RJS

    RJS Guest

    If the three lodges in TX that created the Grand Lodge of the Republic of Texas were chartered by LA (F & AM) how did we end up AF & AM?
  3. jonesvilletexas

    jonesvilletexas Premium Member

    Thanks Brother, I will look into that one.
  4. Blake Bowden

    Blake Bowden Administrator Staff Member

    Great post!
  5. JEbeling

    JEbeling Guest

    The committe on change (work ).. ?
  6. GMO

    GMO Guest

    Gonzales #30 was chartered in 1847 and its charter reads "Ancient York Masons" and I think all of the Lodges charterd by the Republic of Texas and by the State of Texas up until about 1849 read the same.

    Glen Sachtleben
    Gonzales #30
  7. Joey

    Joey Co-Founder Staff Member

    I believe that you are correct Bro. Glen
  8. owls84

    owls84 Moderator Premium Member

    I tell you what this is an answer to something that have been asked to me I bet a dozen times. Thank you Brother.

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