Certification

Discussion in 'General Freemasonry Discussion' started by HKTidwell, Sep 6, 2009.

  1. HKTidwell

    HKTidwell Premium Member

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    After speaking with Brother Lins on here, I decided to meet up with him at a certification in Georgetown. For two reason a) to meet him in person, b) based on his recommendation so I would know the process for the future.

    It was a great experience Brother Lins is a extremely good about taking time to explain things in person as he is on here. While I was not there to be certified he made sure that I was involved and had a good understanding about what would happen during an examination. I would strongly recommend sitting in on one of these so you know what is expected when you decide to pursue your certification.

    My next thought was why are there such a limited amount of brethren certified? I may be wrong in my assumption about the quantity of Masons who are certified but I know my lodge does not have any brothers who are certified.

    For those on here who have been a mason for a long period of time, was there a time when more people held a Certification in the lodge. If so what caused the change in your opinion?
     
  2. rhitland

    rhitland Founding Member Premium Member

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    I know back in the "Glory days" at 148 they had an awesome degree team with many A certed but everbody on the degree team was at least B; also in order to be JW you had to be able to teach floor school for all degrees so he had to be B certed also which equaled a bunch of certified Masons at 148. Today 148 has 2 certified Masons. My opinion on why the decline is b/c it is no longer "cool" to be certified like it was in the glory days.
     
  3. fairbanks1363pm

    fairbanks1363pm Registered User

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    my dad says when he went in at our lodge tere was 12-15 a certs. now there are 2
     
  4. HKTidwell

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    I wonder if there is a way to bring back the "Cool" factor into being certified. Perhaps this is a district thing that could be a challenge between lodges. I definitely see a benefit, after sitting in on the certification process.
     
  5. Bill Lins

    Bill Lins Moderating Staff Staff Member

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    Bro. Hugh- thanks for the kind words. I was extremely fortunate to have an instructor who took the time to explain the work, rather than just have me memorize it. I try my best to emulate his example. I'm glad you came & enjoyed yourself. I think if more Brethren would attend, they would like it as much as you did.

    Bro. Rhit- what's "uncool" about getting the recognition, certificate, & pin (for "A")?
     
  6. Bill Lins

    Bill Lins Moderating Staff Staff Member

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    That's a great idea! I'd bet your DI would be willing to help with this.
     
  7. Zack

    Zack Registered User

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    Yes. there was a time when more members held proficiency cards etc.

    I can't speak to Texas, but in my jurisdiction, change came about when Freemasonry became obsessed with quantity vs quality of its membership.
    Just my opinion.
     
  8. TCShelton

    TCShelton Founding Member Premium Member

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    Our lodge buys you an endowment if you get an A cert. That is pretty cool...:beer:
     
  9. Wingnut

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    looking back at the old proceedings (I love reading them!) there were several hundred or more a year being presented. I think that has kind of fallen by the way side since the 70s-80s however, I dont see near as many and many of the older masons havent even heard about it!
     
  10. Bill Lins

    Bill Lins Moderating Staff Staff Member

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    That's a GREAT idea!
     
  11. Blake Bowden

    Blake Bowden Administrator Staff Member

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    That's deserved!
     
  12. fairbanks1363pm

    fairbanks1363pm Registered User

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    getting mine was on of the poudest moments of my life. i cant help but to put brothers with certificates on a pedastool
     
  13. owls84

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    Let me ask this, with the current issues with the endowment funds would you think it to be a good idea to award the endowment after 5 or 10 years of holding an A-Cert? Not saying it would happen but what stops a person from getting his A then never getting it again because he got his endowment. (The "well he worked too hard to drop it" can't apply here)
     
  14. TCShelton

    TCShelton Founding Member Premium Member

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    No, I think that if the lodge raises their endowments to a reasonable rate, it shouldn't be a problem.
     
  15. Bill Lins

    Bill Lins Moderating Staff Staff Member

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    Oh, yes it does! It's just too much to learn to forget about it. Besides, in the rural areas anyway, there are so few of us that we often get called to come give the lectures in degrees in other Lodges. There's probably a few who let the work go but I'd bet they're a tiny minority.
     

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