Far Left or Far Right

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Give the choice, who will the American voters choose - the far left or far right ?

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  1. Sirius

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    Given that today's political climate continues to push both of the major political parties to their polar extremes, when given a choice - who do you think the American voters will choose if given the choice of the extreme left or the extreme right and why?
     
  2. Blake Bowden

    Blake Bowden Administrator Staff Member

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    It doesn't matter. Democrat or Republican, they're both wolves in sheep's clothing.
     
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  3. RedTemplar

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    Far left = Communism
    Far Right = Fascism
     
  4. HKTidwell

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    Unfortunately/fortunately I've gotten very involved in politics. I was at dinner the other night with a gentleman that is running for office and the one thing I keep telling people is Conservatism wins. When I say conservative I'm not referring to the religious right, I'm talking about conservative policies. These key policies (fiscal responsibility, Freedom of succeeding, Freedom of choice, and constitutional adherence) if discussed in a manner that explains them to people, will always win. The problem is most people allow for others to shape them, this is a tactic that will create failure every single time.

    I actually consider myself far right but not in the manner that most people see the term. I base it off of the Barry Goldwater Conservative far right mind set. While most think of this as a religious statement, I'm sorry but decisions based upon ones personal determination of doctrine is never a good thing. Granted every decision a person makes is based upon their moral compass so it is a fine line. Morality and spirituality tend to go hand in hand.

    Just my two cents.
     
  5. Sirius

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    I love Barry Goldwater. A true conservative. And not really so far right as a Tom Delay or Rick Perry.

    I agree that most people follow the band wagon, its an American tradition.
     
  6. JTM

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    i've disowned labels like that. the only thing it serves is to divide based on a label.

    <---refuses to vote.
     
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  7. TCShelton

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    +1.
     
  8. Wingnut

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    now that alone could make for a good discussion! Many scholars now dont believe that Fascism IS to the far right! In many ways its actually more left in its ideology.
     
  9. Sirius

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    A Political Scientist would say fascism is on the far right. You would think left due to govt control of industry, but the others aspects of the ideology (superiority of a race, religious controls, etc) make it a far right government.

    Which according to the poll, most here think that the people would choose a far right government over a far left. Most interesting is that a far right government has never been elected in any country that was prosperous and free of internal turmoil. So does this mean that things are that bad?
     
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  10. drapetomaniac

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    Well, when we've had internal "issues" that affect public rights - McCarthyism, Internment camps- those are when we've been closest to the extremes.
     
  11. Sirius

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    And we learned from those mistakes. Thats why we didn't round up Muslims and Arabs on 9/12/2001.
     
  12. TCShelton

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    We didn't need to, when we now have electronic imprisonment. We may not have rounded them all up, but we sure did "monitor" them nonstop. Go Patriot Act.. !
     
  13. Sirius

    Sirius Registered User

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    Very true. The Patriot Act was a surge right for sure. Most troubling, its still there.
     
  14. Sirius

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    I think the answer to the question lies in economics. If we were to enter a depression like era again, I believe the far right would prevail. But when the economy recovers and the GOP truely becomes the Tea Party, the left is gonna win again and again.
     
  15. rhitland

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    I did not see a choose for either, although our current President is a Democrat I feel is was less an extreme than his opponent and the people voted for the closet middle of the aisle guy the could. The public seems to be tired of my way or the highway mentality. Just my 2 cents although I would have been happy with either one of the candidates this last election.
     
  16. drapetomaniac

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    Well, we rounded up fewer. But monitoring kicked in, profiling kicked in and several were taken without public disclosure (secret detentions). Police departments were recruited for several rounds of "voluntary interviews" for thousands in the Muslim and Arab communities (some departments refused to participate). Michelle Malkin has repeatedly justified those camps and still remains a normal commentator for folks, so I'm not sure it's considered that fringe to support camps.

    We actually don't know how many were rounded up for questioning or disappearing. We learned we can't do it in public.
     
  17. Sirius

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    As much as I want to believe that's true, bot h parties are not showing signs of moderation but rather extremism.

    So when the election comes in a few years when the choice is between one extreme or the other, who will the people choose?
     
  18. TCShelton

    TCShelton Founding Member Premium Member

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    I'll choose Libertarian yet again.
     
  19. drapetomaniac

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    Well - Obama's support escalated drastically when the economy started to tank. Analysts openly discussed if the economy was good Obama would have received fewer votes and others that the GOP needed a terrorist attack to win.

    I do think you hit on something - the GOP is more likely to win when people feel like they already have something to hold on to. What happened in Latin America is the poor finally started voting and paying attention and because many are still largely an oligarch, the poor outnumbered the wealthy and didn't equate the wealthy with themselves.
     
  20. TCShelton

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    And what cracks me up is the Republican supporters are blaming their economic losses on Obama. Almost like Katrina getting blamed on Bush.. !
     
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