Firefighter suspended for refusing to peel American flag sticker from locker

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  1. Blake Bowden

    Blake Bowden Administrator Staff Member

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  2. HKTidwell

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    Welcome to the PC world where common sense doesn't play into the equation.
     
  3. ljlinson1206

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    This is the kind of thing that makes me wanna find a democrat and beat the s**t out of them. What has our country become. The Stars and Stripes represents the men and women who gave the ultimate sacrifice so that this country would remain free. And to see someone, ANYONE, want it taken down because it might be "OFFENSIVE" makes me want to puke!!!!!!!

    Sorry for the rant guys.
     
  4. Blake Bowden

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  5. JTM

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    power in numbers is not a good thing. power in numbers is a democracy, and democracy can turn on you just as a dictator could. the power of a democracy lies in the slick of tongue.

    power of the law is what we need. "can everyone abide by the rules set forth?" if not, the rules need to be changed. if so, then the republic wins.

    this being a firehouse, paid for by the government, the rule for "no political decals" needs to stand firm or be removed. exceptions are not a good thing.

    a flag is by definition a political sign. it should've been taken down, no questions, if that's the rule.

    sorry guys.
     
  6. owls84

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    I typed this yesturday but forgot to submit it.

    My feeling is on this is the fireman should remove the sticker. The rule was EVERYTHING was to be removed frm the outside of the lockers. If he feels he needs to be patriotic then he should put the flag on the inside. I really have the issue with the fireman second guessing his superiors. I think had he removed it then requested that the flag stickers be exempt from the rule and done it the way adults do things then this wouldn't have been an issue.

    Now I question if this guy gets his way does he begain to second guess the Captain's Orders during an emergency situation? I hope not. I just think he could have handled it better than lay down kicking and screaming that its not right.

    I don't think democrat or republican has anything to do with a rule being enforced.
     
  7. JTM

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    i'm glad we agree, owls. great post!
     
  8. jwalters

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    Insane, simply insane
     
  9. Scotty32

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    I was ordered to remove a flag sticker from my helmet shortly after 911 when I was in the FD. Dept. policy no stickers on helmets. Made me mad yea but I was over it 2 min later. Moved it to my truck.
     
  10. HKTidwell

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    I find the Rule stupid but I do not like a PC world because it affects the possibility for discussions and increased learning between people! I think the FF should have obeyed the rule and worked to change it.
     
  11. HKTidwell

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    Also when you look at the photos on MSNBC this FF pulled another sticker from his locker. Probably one of those things that he never thought the flag would be an issue, once it became an issue it was stubbornness. No idea if that is a factual statement strictly an assumption and we all know what assuming does.
     
  12. jwalters

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    I was in the fire service for a while, it is a very political thing, unfortunatley it is more about how you play politics than fighting the fire. I do agree, he should have removed it then fought. At least then he would still have a paycheck coming
     
  13. Scotty32

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    Thats the reason why I left the fire service & never had anymore ambition for a career in that business. The old saying goes, 'Telephone, Telegram, Tell a fireman.'

    Dickinson was my neck of the woods back in the day.
     

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