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Blake Bowden

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I just received this email....thoughts?

The Global Islamic population is approximately 1,200,000, 000

ONE BILLION TWO HUNDRED MILLION or 20% of the world' s population.

They have received the following Nobel Prizes:

Literature:

  • 1988 - Najib Mahfooz

Peace:

  • 1978 - Mohamed Anwar El- S a d a t
  • 1990 - Elias James Corey
  • 1994 - Yaser Arafat:
  • 1999 - Ahmed Zewai


Economics:
(zero)


Physics:
(zero)

Medicine:

  • 1960 - Peter Brian Medawar
  • 1998 - Ferid Mourad


TOTAL: 7 SEVEN

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The Global Jewish population is approximately 14,000, 000
Only FOURTEEN MILLION or about 0.02% of the world's population.

They have received the following Nobel Prizes:

Literature:

  • 1910 - Paul Heyse
  • 1927 - Henri Bergson
  • 1958 - Boris Pasternak
  • 1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon
  • 1966 - Nelly Sachs
  • 1976 - Saul Bellow
  • 1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer
  • 1981 - Elias Canetti
  • 1987 - Joseph Brodsky
  • 1991 - Nadine Gordimer World

Peace:

  • 1911 - Alfred Fried
  • 1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser
  • 1968 - Rene Cassin
  • 1973 - Henry Kissinger
  • 1978 - Menachem Begin
  • 1986 - Elie Wiesel
  • 1994 - Shimon Peres
  • 1994 - Yitzhak Rabin

Physics:

  • 1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer
  • 1906 - Henri Moissan
  • 1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson
  • 1908 - Gabriel Lippmann
  • 1910 - Otto Wallach
  • 1915 - Richard Willstaetter
  • 1918 - Fritz Haber
  • 1921 - Albert Einstein
  • 1922 - Niels Bohr
  • 1925 - James Franck
  • 1925 - Gustav Hertz
  • 1943 - Gustav Stern
  • 1943 - George Charles de Hevesy
  • 1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi
  • 1952 - Felix Bloch
  • 1954 - Max Born
  • 1958 - Igor Tamm
  • 1959 - Emilio Segre
  • 1960 - Donald A. Glaser
  • 1961 - Robert Hofstadter
  • 1961 - Melvin Calvin
  • 1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau
  • 1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz
  • 1965 - Richard Phillips Feynman
  • 1965 - Julian Schwinger
  • 1969 - Murray Gell-Mann
  • 1971 - Dennis Gabor
  • 1972 - William Howard Stein
  • 1973 - Brian David Josephson
  • 1975 - Benjamin Mottleson
  • 1976 - Burton Richter
  • 1977 - Ilya Prigogine
  • 1978 - Arno Allan Penzias
  • 1978 - Peter L Kapitza
  • 1979 - Stephen Weinberg
  • 1979 - Sheldon Glashow
  • 1979 - Herbert Charles Brown
  • 1980 - Paul Berg
  • 1980 - Walter Gilbert
  • 1981 - Roald Hoffmann
  • 1982 - Aaron Klug
  • 1985 - Albert A. Hauptman
  • 1985 - Jerome Karle
  • 1986 - Dudley R. Herschbach
  • 1988 - Robert Huber
  • 1988 - Leon Lederman
  • 1988 - Melvin Schwartz
  • 1988 - Jack Steinberger
  • 1989 - Sidney Altman
  • 1990 - Jerome Friedman
  • 1992 - Rudolph Marcus
  • 1995 - Martin Perl
  • 2000 - Alan J. Heeger

Economics:

  • 1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson
  • 1971 - Simon Kuznets
  • 1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow
  • 1975 - Leonid Kantorovich
  • 1976 - Milton Friedman
  • 1978 - Herbert A. Simon
  • 1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein
  • 1985 - Franco Modigliani
  • 1987 - Robert M. Solow
  • 1990 - Harry Markowitz
  • 1990 - Merton Miller
  • 1992 - Gary Becker
  • 1993 - Robert Fogel

Medicine:

  • 1908 - Elie Metchnikoff
  • 1908 - Paul Erlich
  • 1914 - Robert Barany
  • 1922 - Otto Meyerhof
  • 1930 - Karl Landsteiner
  • 1931 - Otto Warburg
  • 1936 - Otto Loewi
  • 1944 - Joseph Erlanger
  • 1944 - Herb ert Spencer Gasser
  • 1945 - Ernst Boris Chain
  • 1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller
  • 1950 - Tadeus Reichstein
  • 1952 - Selman Abraham Waksman
  • 1953 - Hans Krebs
  • 1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann
  • 1958 - Joshua Lederberg
  • 1959 - Arthur Kornberg
  • 1964 - Konrad Bloch
  • 1965 - Francois Jacob
  • 1965 - Andre Lwoff
  • 1967 - George Wald
  • 1968 - Marshall W. Nirenberg
  • 1969 - Salvador Luria
  • 1970 - Julius Axelrod
  • 1970 - Sir Bernard Katz
  • 1972 - Gerald Maurice Edelman
  • 1975 - Howard Martin Temin
  • 1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg
  • 1977 - Roselyn Sussman Yalow
  • 1978 - Daniel Nathans
  • 1980 - Baruj Benacerraf
  • 1984 - Cesar Milstein
  • 1985 - Michael Stuart Brown
  • 1985 - Joseph L. Goldstein
  • 1986 - Stanley Cohen [& Rita Levi- Montalcini]
  • 1988 - Gertrude Elion
  • 1989 - Harold Varmus
  • 1991 - Erwin Neher
  • 1991 - Bert Sakmann
  • 1993 - Richard J. Roberts
  • 1993 - Phillip Sharp
  • 1994 - Alfred Gilman
  • 1995 - Edward B. Lewis

TOTAL: 129 ONE HUNDRED TWENTY NINE!


The Jews are NOT promoting brain washing children in military training camps, teaching them how to blow themselves up and cause maximum deaths of Jews and other non Muslims!


The Jews don't hijack planes, nor kill athletes at the Olympics, or blow themselves up in German restaurants. There is NOT one single Jew that has destroyed a church. There is NOT a single Jew that protests by killing people..


The Jews don't traffic slaves, nor have leaders calling for Jihad and death to all the Infidels.

Perhaps the world's Muslims should consider investing more in standard education and less in blaming the Jews for all their problems.

Muslims must ask 'what can they do for humankind' before they demand that humankind respects them!!

Regardless of your feelings about the crisis between Israel and the Palestinians and Arab neighbors, even if you believe there is more culpability on Israel 's part, the following two sentences really say it all:

'If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence.
If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel '.

-Benjamin Netanyahu
 

Bill Lins

Moderating Staff
Staff Member
I think the Muslims are overrepresented- no way should Arafat been given the Peace Prize.
 

drapetomaniac

Premium Member
Premium Member
There are Jewish extremists groups and the Israeli military has had a history of policies like razing family homes if anyone attached to the house or family is suspected of terrorism, cutting off water supplies for the same.

The Jews are NOT promoting brain washing children in military training camps, teaching them how to blow themselves up and cause maximum deaths of Jews and other non Muslims!

Neither are "The Muslims"

The Jews don't hijack planes, nor kill athletes at the Olympics, or blow themselves up in German restaurants. There is NOT one single Jew that has destroyed a church. There is NOT a single Jew that protests by killing people..

Impressive for a whole ethnic group and religion not to have a single extremist in their midst. Except for the assassin of Yitzhak Rabin, members of Kahane and others mentioned in the report by the ADL : "Extremism in the Name of Religion: The Violent Record of the Kahane Movement and Its Offshoots"

Perhaps the world's Muslims should consider investing more in standard education and less in blaming the Jews for all their problems.

They should invest more in education. So should Israel.
Jews rank high among winners of Nobel, but why not Israelis? http://www.jweekly.com/article/full...-among-winners-of-nobel-but-why-not-israelis/
from that article: "Jews have won almost three times the number of awards won by either Germany or France (including their Jewish winners), and 10 times those won by Japan"

So what should the Germans, Japanese and French do? The Germans and Japanese actually did stop trying to take over the world (and they were *actually* trying to).

Muslims must ask 'what can they do for humankind' before they demand that humankind respects them!!

So should every group. But who is the person who decided they will segment society and not respect those segments until they fulfill certain conditions. Besides the fact this puts them outside of humankind....

Regardless of your feelings about the crisis between Israel and the Palestinians and Arab neighbors, even if you believe there is more culpability on Israel 's part, the following two sentences really say it all:
'If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence.
If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel '.
-Benjamin Netanyahu

Regardless? It's a one sided statement.

This email merges all Muslims as Arabs. Most Muslims are Asian. Most Muslims in the US are Black. This email was made to generalize and demonize all Muslims, as evidenced by the fact they actually start by defining the entire Muslim population. But on that population, if 1.2 billion people matched the stereotype promoted by them, the world would be in much more damaged shape. Germany and Japan didn't have 1.2 billion when they acted up.

Only 20% of the Muslim population lives in the Middle East AND North Africa. More than 60% in Asia.

What's the ratio of Christians vs Jews? Or Buddhists?
 

Traveling Man

Premium Member
I think the Muslims are overrepresented- no way should Arafat been given the Peace Prize.

How can I state this discreetly? ... After two "certain" American individuals were "given" the peace prize, Alfred Nobel was last seen spinning in his grave...

That said, the value of the "prize" is now equal to the Jamaican dollar... It looks pretty, but worth maybe the value of monopoly money?
 

drapetomaniac

Premium Member
Premium Member
I don't think the Nobel has been respected in the US for quite some time. The rhetoric has been the same for decades.

Who is this talking about?

"But the stated form of the objection concerned not [his] race but his obnoxiousness as a man. He was a windbag. He was pompous and self-dramatizing, He was holier than thou. Plus, he had started getting involved where he didn't belong."

http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/...2007&base_name=when_martin_luther_king_jr_won
 

Traveling Man

Premium Member

Hippie19950

Premium Member
I know!! I know!!! I know!!! But to prevent another rant and rave project, I won't mention the name(s). here. Hey, did anyone see the press conference this morning with Obama? Gonna get some aid for the folks in Haiti.
 

Traveling Man

Premium Member
"The whole of my remaining realizable estate shall be dealt with in the following way: the capital, invested in safe securities by my executors, shall constitute a fund, the interest on which shall be annually distributed in the form of prizes to those who, during the preceding year, shall have conferred the greatest benefit to mankind. The said interest shall be divided into five equal parts, which shall be apportioned as follows: one part to the person who shall have made the most important discovery or invention within the field of physics; one part to the person who shall have made the most important chemical discovery or improvement; one part to the person who shall have made the most important discovery within the domain of physiology or medicine; one part to the person who shall have produced in the field of literature the most outstanding work in an ideal direction; and one part to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses. The prize for physics and chemistry shall be awarded by the Swedish Academy of Sciences; that for physiological or medical works by Karolinska Institutet in Stockholm; that for literature by the Academy in Stockholm; and that for champions of peace by a committee of five persons to be elected by the Norwegian Storting. It is my express wish that in awarding the prizes no consideration whatever shall be given to the nationality of the candidates, but that the most worthy shall receive the prize, whether he be a Scandinavian or not."


The Norwegian committee itself uses the broadest criteria in making its decisions.

Alfred Nobel wrote in his will that the peace prize was to be given "to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between the nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing
armies, and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses." Nobel planned his prizes only
for persons, but the statutes adopted permitted the prize awarding bodies also to make an award to
"an institution or an association." The Swedish institutions awarding the prizes for physics,
chemistry, medicine, and literature have followed Nobel's wishes, while the Norwegian
committee has named 17 institutions for its prizes along with the 84 individuals.

In 110 years since, the Norwegian Nobel Committee has awarded the Peace Prize to 113 recipients, from President Woodrow Wilson for his work to create the League of Nations to chemist Linus Pauling for his efforts to stop nuclear arms proliferation, and to U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger and North Vietnam's Le Duc Tho for negotiating the end of the Vietnam War.

Fast forward…

In recent years, however, the criteria for who should win has broadened somewhat, according to Ole Danbolt Mjoes, chairman of the Norwegian Nobel Committee. In fact, Mjoes recently told the Washington Post that work on arms control and arranging peace conferences is now "out of style," and that a new criterion has gained favor: "It is about how we live together, share resources ... about preserving the Earth." Mjoes also pointed to another growing trend in awarding the Peace Prize: more women.

To that end, the committee most recently awarded the 2004 Peace Prize to African environmentalist Wangari Maathai, and Mjoes said there likely will be more like her in the future. Yet as Friday's 2005 award announcement of Mohamed ElBaradei and the International Atomic Energy Agency shows, Alfred Nobel's original anti-war ideal remains a central criteria in awarding the prize.

So, as this clearly demonstrates we have the perversion of this mans last will and testament. I guess since this whole thing started by the press claiming his false demise, to his own personal epiphany (that of his legacy), there is nothing out of bounds for political correctness.
 
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drapetomaniac

Premium Member
Premium Member
Of course the reasons the Nobel committee gives are almost wholly ignored in favor of labeling the individuals and assuming those basic labels and political weight of them is why they were nominated.

The committee gives a statement on why each person is nominated.
 

drapetomaniac

Premium Member
Premium Member
Well, as I said, Americans haven't respected it in decades and the rhetoric remains the same. Meanwhile, here are the reasons for the past decade

"for his work for democracy and human rights in South Korea and in East Asia in general, and for peace and reconciliation with North Korea in particular"

"for their work for a better organized and more peaceful world"

"for his decades of untiring effort to find peaceful solutions to international conflicts, to advance democracy and human rights, and to promote economic and social development"

"for her efforts for democracy and human rights. She has focused especially on the struggle for the rights of women and children."

"for their efforts to prevent nuclear energy from being used for military purposes and to ensure that nuclear energy for peaceful purposes is used in the safest possible way"

"for her contribution to sustainable development, democracy and peace"

"for their efforts to create economic and social development from below"

"for their efforts to build up and disseminate greater knowledge about man-made climate change, and to lay the foundations for the measures that are needed to counteract such change"

"for his important efforts, on several continents and over more than three decades, to resolve international conflicts"

"for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples"

I know people hate the diplomacy part and the environmental part. And as you pointed out - reducing the use of atomic energy for war.

Some people see the importance of nations working together. And know there is a long history of poverty striking up or encouraging political unrest. There have been wars over environmental resources throughout human history, and over water. So reducing scarcity and not exacerbating those situations is useful. Everyone working in Afghanistan is focusing on these issues.

In the past decade, AIDs has been recognized and treated as a security issue as well. If it goes unchecked in certain areas, (really any area), it overtakes an area like any plague and removes local stable governments and reduces the overall healthy population making them heavily exploitable. Stable governments in other countries help our security.

You can see environmental and energy stability (in our case access to oil although some folks from certain states will recognize the water issue and how heated that can be), diplomacy with multiple parties, social stability, and lack of atomic weapons - all recognized and worked on by any State Department or diplomat around the world.

Even in computer security, Availability is one of the three summary fields of security and Social needs are examined as well. That includes energy to run the systems and the people in or around them. We can mock them, but no system is secure who hasn't consider them.
 
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