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Discussion in 'The Refreshment Lounge' started by Blake Bowden, Jan 14, 2010.

  1. Blake Bowden

    Blake Bowden Administrator Staff Member

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    I just received this email....thoughts?

    The Global Islamic population is approximately 1,200,000, 000

    ONE BILLION TWO HUNDRED MILLION or 20% of the world' s population.

    They have received the following Nobel Prizes:

    Literature:

    • 1988 - Najib Mahfooz

    Peace:

    • 1978 - Mohamed Anwar El- S a d a t
    • 1990 - Elias James Corey
    • 1994 - Yaser Arafat:
    • 1999 - Ahmed Zewai


    Economics:
    (zero)


    Physics:
    (zero)

    Medicine:

    • 1960 - Peter Brian Medawar
    • 1998 - Ferid Mourad


    TOTAL: 7 SEVEN

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    The Global Jewish population is approximately 14,000, 000
    Only FOURTEEN MILLION or about 0.02% of the world's population.

    They have received the following Nobel Prizes:

    Literature:

    • 1910 - Paul Heyse
    • 1927 - Henri Bergson
    • 1958 - Boris Pasternak
    • 1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon
    • 1966 - Nelly Sachs
    • 1976 - Saul Bellow
    • 1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer
    • 1981 - Elias Canetti
    • 1987 - Joseph Brodsky
    • 1991 - Nadine Gordimer World

    Peace:

    • 1911 - Alfred Fried
    • 1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser
    • 1968 - Rene Cassin
    • 1973 - Henry Kissinger
    • 1978 - Menachem Begin
    • 1986 - Elie Wiesel
    • 1994 - Shimon Peres
    • 1994 - Yitzhak Rabin

    Physics:

    • 1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer
    • 1906 - Henri Moissan
    • 1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson
    • 1908 - Gabriel Lippmann
    • 1910 - Otto Wallach
    • 1915 - Richard Willstaetter
    • 1918 - Fritz Haber
    • 1921 - Albert Einstein
    • 1922 - Niels Bohr
    • 1925 - James Franck
    • 1925 - Gustav Hertz
    • 1943 - Gustav Stern
    • 1943 - George Charles de Hevesy
    • 1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi
    • 1952 - Felix Bloch
    • 1954 - Max Born
    • 1958 - Igor Tamm
    • 1959 - Emilio Segre
    • 1960 - Donald A. Glaser
    • 1961 - Robert Hofstadter
    • 1961 - Melvin Calvin
    • 1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau
    • 1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz
    • 1965 - Richard Phillips Feynman
    • 1965 - Julian Schwinger
    • 1969 - Murray Gell-Mann
    • 1971 - Dennis Gabor
    • 1972 - William Howard Stein
    • 1973 - Brian David Josephson
    • 1975 - Benjamin Mottleson
    • 1976 - Burton Richter
    • 1977 - Ilya Prigogine
    • 1978 - Arno Allan Penzias
    • 1978 - Peter L Kapitza
    • 1979 - Stephen Weinberg
    • 1979 - Sheldon Glashow
    • 1979 - Herbert Charles Brown
    • 1980 - Paul Berg
    • 1980 - Walter Gilbert
    • 1981 - Roald Hoffmann
    • 1982 - Aaron Klug
    • 1985 - Albert A. Hauptman
    • 1985 - Jerome Karle
    • 1986 - Dudley R. Herschbach
    • 1988 - Robert Huber
    • 1988 - Leon Lederman
    • 1988 - Melvin Schwartz
    • 1988 - Jack Steinberger
    • 1989 - Sidney Altman
    • 1990 - Jerome Friedman
    • 1992 - Rudolph Marcus
    • 1995 - Martin Perl
    • 2000 - Alan J. Heeger

    Economics:

    • 1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson
    • 1971 - Simon Kuznets
    • 1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow
    • 1975 - Leonid Kantorovich
    • 1976 - Milton Friedman
    • 1978 - Herbert A. Simon
    • 1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein
    • 1985 - Franco Modigliani
    • 1987 - Robert M. Solow
    • 1990 - Harry Markowitz
    • 1990 - Merton Miller
    • 1992 - Gary Becker
    • 1993 - Robert Fogel

    Medicine:

    • 1908 - Elie Metchnikoff
    • 1908 - Paul Erlich
    • 1914 - Robert Barany
    • 1922 - Otto Meyerhof
    • 1930 - Karl Landsteiner
    • 1931 - Otto Warburg
    • 1936 - Otto Loewi
    • 1944 - Joseph Erlanger
    • 1944 - Herb ert Spencer Gasser
    • 1945 - Ernst Boris Chain
    • 1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller
    • 1950 - Tadeus Reichstein
    • 1952 - Selman Abraham Waksman
    • 1953 - Hans Krebs
    • 1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann
    • 1958 - Joshua Lederberg
    • 1959 - Arthur Kornberg
    • 1964 - Konrad Bloch
    • 1965 - Francois Jacob
    • 1965 - Andre Lwoff
    • 1967 - George Wald
    • 1968 - Marshall W. Nirenberg
    • 1969 - Salvador Luria
    • 1970 - Julius Axelrod
    • 1970 - Sir Bernard Katz
    • 1972 - Gerald Maurice Edelman
    • 1975 - Howard Martin Temin
    • 1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg
    • 1977 - Roselyn Sussman Yalow
    • 1978 - Daniel Nathans
    • 1980 - Baruj Benacerraf
    • 1984 - Cesar Milstein
    • 1985 - Michael Stuart Brown
    • 1985 - Joseph L. Goldstein
    • 1986 - Stanley Cohen [& Rita Levi- Montalcini]
    • 1988 - Gertrude Elion
    • 1989 - Harold Varmus
    • 1991 - Erwin Neher
    • 1991 - Bert Sakmann
    • 1993 - Richard J. Roberts
    • 1993 - Phillip Sharp
    • 1994 - Alfred Gilman
    • 1995 - Edward B. Lewis

    TOTAL: 129 ONE HUNDRED TWENTY NINE!


    The Jews are NOT promoting brain washing children in military training camps, teaching them how to blow themselves up and cause maximum deaths of Jews and other non Muslims!


    The Jews don't hijack planes, nor kill athletes at the Olympics, or blow themselves up in German restaurants. There is NOT one single Jew that has destroyed a church. There is NOT a single Jew that protests by killing people..


    The Jews don't traffic slaves, nor have leaders calling for Jihad and death to all the Infidels.

    Perhaps the world's Muslims should consider investing more in standard education and less in blaming the Jews for all their problems.

    Muslims must ask 'what can they do for humankind' before they demand that humankind respects them!!

    Regardless of your feelings about the crisis between Israel and the Palestinians and Arab neighbors, even if you believe there is more culpability on Israel 's part, the following two sentences really say it all:

    'If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence.
    If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel '.

    -Benjamin Netanyahu
     
  2. Bill Lins

    Bill Lins Moderating Staff Staff Member

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    I think the Muslims are overrepresented- no way should Arafat been given the Peace Prize.
     
  3. drapetomaniac

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    There are Jewish extremists groups and the Israeli military has had a history of policies like razing family homes if anyone attached to the house or family is suspected of terrorism, cutting off water supplies for the same.

    Neither are "The Muslims"

    Impressive for a whole ethnic group and religion not to have a single extremist in their midst. Except for the assassin of Yitzhak Rabin, members of Kahane and others mentioned in the report by the ADL : "Extremism in the Name of Religion: The Violent Record of the Kahane Movement and Its Offshoots"

    They should invest more in education. So should Israel.
    Jews rank high among winners of Nobel, but why not Israelis? http://www.jweekly.com/article/full...-among-winners-of-nobel-but-why-not-israelis/
    from that article: "Jews have won almost three times the number of awards won by either Germany or France (including their Jewish winners), and 10 times those won by Japan"

    So what should the Germans, Japanese and French do? The Germans and Japanese actually did stop trying to take over the world (and they were *actually* trying to).

    So should every group. But who is the person who decided they will segment society and not respect those segments until they fulfill certain conditions. Besides the fact this puts them outside of humankind....

    Regardless? It's a one sided statement.

    This email merges all Muslims as Arabs. Most Muslims are Asian. Most Muslims in the US are Black. This email was made to generalize and demonize all Muslims, as evidenced by the fact they actually start by defining the entire Muslim population. But on that population, if 1.2 billion people matched the stereotype promoted by them, the world would be in much more damaged shape. Germany and Japan didn't have 1.2 billion when they acted up.

    Only 20% of the Muslim population lives in the Middle East AND North Africa. More than 60% in Asia.

    What's the ratio of Christians vs Jews? Or Buddhists?
     
  4. Traveling Man

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    How can I state this discreetly? ... After two "certain" American individuals were "given" the peace prize, Alfred Nobel was last seen spinning in his grave...

    That said, the value of the "prize" is now equal to the Jamaican dollar... It looks pretty, but worth maybe the value of monopoly money?
     
  5. drapetomaniac

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    I don't think the Nobel has been respected in the US for quite some time. The rhetoric has been the same for decades.

    Who is this talking about?

    "But the stated form of the objection concerned not [his] race but his obnoxiousness as a man. He was a windbag. He was pompous and self-dramatizing, He was holier than thou. Plus, he had started getting involved where he didn't belong."

    http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/...2007&base_name=when_martin_luther_king_jr_won
     
  6. Traveling Man

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    Your text link gives it away... thanks for playing anyway, he was neither of the individuals alluded...
     
  7. drapetomaniac

    drapetomaniac Premium Member Premium Member

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    I didn't think he was- but again, the rhetoric hasn't changed.
     
  8. Hippie19950

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    I know!! I know!!! I know!!! But to prevent another rant and rave project, I won't mention the name(s). here. Hey, did anyone see the press conference this morning with Obama? Gonna get some aid for the folks in Haiti.
     
  9. Traveling Man

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    The Norwegian committee itself uses the broadest criteria in making its decisions.

    Alfred Nobel wrote in his will that the peace prize was to be given "to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between the nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing
    armies, and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses." Nobel planned his prizes only
    for persons, but the statutes adopted permitted the prize awarding bodies also to make an award to
    "an institution or an association." The Swedish institutions awarding the prizes for physics,
    chemistry, medicine, and literature have followed Nobel's wishes, while the Norwegian
    committee has named 17 institutions for its prizes along with the 84 individuals.

    In 110 years since, the Norwegian Nobel Committee has awarded the Peace Prize to 113 recipients, from President Woodrow Wilson for his work to create the League of Nations to chemist Linus Pauling for his efforts to stop nuclear arms proliferation, and to U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger and North Vietnam's Le Duc Tho for negotiating the end of the Vietnam War.

    Fast forward…

    In recent years, however, the criteria for who should win has broadened somewhat, according to Ole Danbolt Mjoes, chairman of the Norwegian Nobel Committee. In fact, Mjoes recently told the Washington Post that work on arms control and arranging peace conferences is now "out of style," and that a new criterion has gained favor: "It is about how we live together, share resources ... about preserving the Earth." Mjoes also pointed to another growing trend in awarding the Peace Prize: more women.

    To that end, the committee most recently awarded the 2004 Peace Prize to African environmentalist Wangari Maathai, and Mjoes said there likely will be more like her in the future. Yet as Friday's 2005 award announcement of Mohamed ElBaradei and the International Atomic Energy Agency shows, Alfred Nobel's original anti-war ideal remains a central criteria in awarding the prize.

    So, as this clearly demonstrates we have the perversion of this mans last will and testament. I guess since this whole thing started by the press claiming his false demise, to his own personal epiphany (that of his legacy), there is nothing out of bounds for political correctness.
     
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  10. drapetomaniac

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    Of course the reasons the Nobel committee gives are almost wholly ignored in favor of labeling the individuals and assuming those basic labels and political weight of them is why they were nominated.

    The committee gives a statement on why each person is nominated.
     
  11. Traveling Man

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    Which I have summarily stated “has become a perversion of his legacy” nonetheless…
     
  12. drapetomaniac

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    Well, as I said, Americans haven't respected it in decades and the rhetoric remains the same. Meanwhile, here are the reasons for the past decade

    I know people hate the diplomacy part and the environmental part. And as you pointed out - reducing the use of atomic energy for war.

    Some people see the importance of nations working together. And know there is a long history of poverty striking up or encouraging political unrest. There have been wars over environmental resources throughout human history, and over water. So reducing scarcity and not exacerbating those situations is useful. Everyone working in Afghanistan is focusing on these issues.

    In the past decade, AIDs has been recognized and treated as a security issue as well. If it goes unchecked in certain areas, (really any area), it overtakes an area like any plague and removes local stable governments and reduces the overall healthy population making them heavily exploitable. Stable governments in other countries help our security.

    You can see environmental and energy stability (in our case access to oil although some folks from certain states will recognize the water issue and how heated that can be), diplomacy with multiple parties, social stability, and lack of atomic weapons - all recognized and worked on by any State Department or diplomat around the world.

    Even in computer security, Availability is one of the three summary fields of security and Social needs are examined as well. That includes energy to run the systems and the people in or around them. We can mock them, but no system is secure who hasn't consider them.
     
  13. Traveling Man

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    Like I said a perversion of the man's legacy...
     

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