I Need to ID This Image

Discussion in 'General Freemasonry Discussion' started by Mike Martin, Jun 16, 2010.

  1. Mike Martin

    Mike Martin Eternal Apprentice Premium Member

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    Hi all,

    I was referred here by the members at the Mastermason.com Forum as they think this is linked to the GL of Texas.

    The image below of George W Bush is often rolled out on conspiracy/anti-Masonic websites in order to prove that GW Bush is supposedly a Freemason.

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    IN order to counter this lie I am trying to discover what the image actually is. So does anyone here know where it originally appeared and what was actually happening?

    Mike
     
  2. david918

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    Just a guess but he's probably signing a proclamation honoring public schools week when he was governor or something simular.
     
  3. tomasball

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    That's Mike Gower as Grand Master, so it should be about 1999. Bush looks like he's signing a proclamation.
     
  4. JTM

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    it was taken Feb 2000 with a bunch of officers from masonic district 50a and 50b in texas. it was a texas law to "reclaim public schools" or something along those lines.
     
  5. Huw

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    Thanks, JTM, it's always handy to know the real facts.

    Unfortunately it probably doesn't help Bro. Martin's problem as much as it might if it were something else. Now, instead of saying "Bush was a Mason!", the conspiracy nuts will be saying "Masons are subverting public education!" Of course, it probably doesn't really matter what we do (or don't do), conspiracy nuts will always find some way to claim that there's something wrong about it.

    A point to bear in mind is that, in some other countries, public education is more of a partisan political issue than it generally is in the US. In the US, the Brethren can (and do) get involved in public education initiatives and it looks good, but elsewhere (such as here in the UK) it'd be quite difficult to do that without being accused of getting involved in partisan politics, so we generally steer clear of that field. Thus a photo of Brethren looking as if they had something to do with a policy decision about public education may well look good over there, but it'd be a tricky PR problem over here. Unfortunately.

    T & F,

    Huw
     
  6. Mike Martin

    Mike Martin Eternal Apprentice Premium Member

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    Hi TJM,
    That's a good start but do you know where I can get "chapter and verse" on what exactly and specifically is occurring.

    Mike
     
  7. JTM

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    from GLoT. send an email to the grand secretary (Tommy Guest) at this address:

    E-Mail: gs (..@..) grandlodgeoftexas (dawt) org
    254.753.7395
    FAX 254.753.2944

    he'll point you in the right direction at least.
     
  8. JTM

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    they don't look like they have anything to do with policy decisions, they look like they are there to support the signing. just like any number of groups that have representatives behind someone when they have a signing.

    if they just keep saying that the masons were pulling the strings there, then there's no point in trying to convince them otherwise because they've already made their decisions.
     
  9. owls84

    owls84 Moderator Premium Member

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    That is why we are told not to argue with ignorance.
     
  10. JTM

    JTM "Just in case" Premium Member

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    oh yea, it's in the ea charge. awesome.
     
  11. Mike Martin

    Mike Martin Eternal Apprentice Premium Member

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    I'm sure we all know that Masonic protocol prevents me from contacting a foreign Grand Lodge without going through my own Grand Secretary (nice bloke but he won't help me with this) unless I am actually within its geographical territory.

    This is, of course, why I am asking the question of Masons who are likely to be members of the Grand Lodge in question and are therefore likely to have access to the info.

    Mike
     
  12. JTM

    JTM "Just in case" Premium Member

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    oh, yea, okay. you're from out of texas. sorry about that. silly protocol in my opinion.
     
  13. Bill Lins

    Bill Lins Moderating Staff Staff Member

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    You had no way of knowing- nothing in his profile to indicate his location.
     
  14. cambridgemason

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    mike is a friend of mine from across the pond. he is looking for the info on that picture, it was by my recommendation that he seek out the brethren of this forum, since he can not contact the GL of Texas directly. Any help with his quest would be greatly appreciated from this brother in Boston. Thank you all for the info thus far, I knew that you brothers could give a helping hand to such noble and glorious an undertaking.
     
  15. Mike Martin

    Mike Martin Eternal Apprentice Premium Member

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    Quite right and I'm sorry about that. I've corrected that by putting some links in my sig file which provide my bona fides.

    Mike
     
    Last edited: Jun 18, 2010
  16. LRG

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    Mirabeau Buonaparte Lamar (1798–1859) 2nd President of the Republic of Texas.
    Lamar has been called "the Father of Texas Education." During his administration, he convinced the legislature to set aside 3 leagues of land for each county to equip schools. He also allotted 50 leagues of land for the support of two universities, later Texas A&M University and the University of Texas. Although nothing was implemented during his term, these actions led to the foundation for a statewide public school system.[5]
    One of his quotes sums up his views "Cultivated mind is the guardian genius of democracy and, while guided and controlled by virtue, the noblest attribute of man. It is the only dictator that freemen acknowledge and the only security that freemen desire."

    As a master mason, we are honored to be apart of public school week.
    Hope this helps
     
  17. Mike Martin

    Mike Martin Eternal Apprentice Premium Member

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    Umm, not at all actually, as it has nothing whatsoever to do with what I am asking.

    MIke
     
  18. LRG

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    I must be on the wrong thread-sorry-
    The picture deals with then Govenor Bush with Master Masons from The Grand Lodge of Texas. They were dealing with public school week. Why Master Masons and public school week? see above
     

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