is it a requirement US legal status to join the Freemasonry?

Discussion in 'Frequently Asked Questions' started by ryorta, Oct 7, 2009.

  1. owls84

    owls84 Moderator Premium Member

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    Great topic, question came up last night when I was telling a candidate that he needed a copy of his birth certificate with his petition. I had a pretty good answer for him. Thanks for the posts.
     
  2. jim9361

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  3. drapetomaniac

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    I'm curious as to how you measured that.
     
  4. drapetomaniac

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    Saw this yesterday, but didn't think to post it because it would just start what was already started. But since y'all are already on it.

     
  5. Raven

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    So Mote it Be!

     
  6. GCT

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    The problem that this man is facing right now is that it is not as simple as you all think to become a resident alien, unfortunately this country has made it very much impossible for these people to become legal. Don't ever came to your head that nobody wants to be an illegal alien? .'. .'. .'.
     
  7. Bill Lins

    Bill Lins Moderating Staff Staff Member

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    Be that as it may, Masons must be law-abiding. Sorry for your guy, but that's the bottom line.
     
  8. Beathard

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    So may it ever be... Protect the west gate!

    Don't fix the problem by allowing criminals to join. Fix the problem by addressing the manner in which people become legal. Fix the problem; don't create another!
     
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  9. Warrior1256

    Warrior1256 Site Benefactor

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    I agree. If someone is breaking the law daily I would think that this would disqualify them from membership.
     
  10. Ba7

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    I come from an ancient irregular temple and i wouldnt call myself a believer so you may take my words with a grain of salt.

    I am married to a us citizen. You gentlemen have no clue what you speak of and how hard your gov has made it. Someone just quoted how you shouldnt scrutinize or stand up against ur own gov. So between education and fairness on one side and following rules blindly you choose the latter without question.


    I even heard someone take a bash at liberals. Hehe. I am thankful i walk my road alone then. Id rather that than share it with most of the views shown here.

    Whoch leads me to believe what i know is true. that freemasonry is lost multiple times since 1717.

    You remind me of the Muslim arabs i grew up around. I tend to see the lack of empathy as well. That same empathy your lord and savior jesus christ had plenty to spare and he had said i am the way so who are you to cling to your personal opinion. A child of the light? Sure.

    You think there is a difference between people who were born here and people who werent. The constitution doesnt make that mistake.

    Also the scripture the gentleman quoted earlier said to always obey goverbment. So if germany or russia or ksa takes over usa you are bound to not protect yourself and obey?

    Is that what the native americans still dubbed indians should have done?
    Also you speak of human gov laws. Do any of you rise beyond the ten commandments? Has any of us truly rose above the first degree.

    Freemasonry is cool but freemasons are outdated. They forgot what they were building. And now they are in-bred shouting damn tree huggers gonna ruin our country. Well it aint reallyyours. You stole it. And killed for it. And not too long ago. But you are so inbred you lack awareness amongst other things.

    So you killed. A godly sin. And u live in it everyday. And you are allowed to be mason. Yet anyone who walkes in now (like your granddaddy did) or fails to renew a visa is cast out of the light? What is this newage light you follow. Is it LED? Is it blind or blinding. You are selectively christian. So you are not christian at all.

    Excuse my blunt. Loaded it with kief.
     
  11. Ba7

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    And jesus was an arab jew.. dark and ugly and smelly. Not white and inbred and entitled.
     
  12. Ba7

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    So you adopt Christianity and freemasonry which are both middle eastern constructs. Which means you are a thief with no honor. Wheres the credit? Wheres being humble. Wheres curiosity and studying.

    So you a thief with no honor roam free in this world but an illegal alien is cast out from the light?


    You must forget that it was immigrant brain power that made this country great with science and literature. Not inbreds
     
  13. CLewey44

    CLewey44 Registered User

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    ...and you are an angry troll....
     
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  14. Ba7

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    Yes lets skip all the logic and only notice attitudes. Like if any thought that doesnt go with our thinking is invalid? Although i do agree i do see myself as a clown but am like krusty. Am serious. Since my tone is wrong i dont mind dwleting my comments. And by wrong i meant provoking. Maube even offending but whats wrong with shock therapy. Whats wrong with allowing people have their opinions no mayter how wrong they are. Obviously the couple biggots who replied with biggot point of views were allowed like if what they say is ultimate truth. I offer nothing but truth in my presentation. Maybe i should have remained silent and just felt pity.
     
  15. Ba7

    Ba7 Registered User

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    Maybe you are confusing my passion for the truth with anger.
     
  16. CLewey44

    CLewey44 Registered User

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    Lets just project while we're at it.

    It's often underused....
     
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  17. Ba7

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  18. Warrior1256

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    Agreed! Like we care what he thinks, lol.
     
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  19. Elexir

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    If freemasons had risen against goverments it had in many ways been striken down by now.
    In some countries it was the ruling class who took in freemasonry.

    The light has not changed but its up to you to understand it.

    Can you say that you know what true christianity is? Then you are deluded.

    Most European where smelly and dirty in the middle ages.

    Freemasonry in the modern sense is european.

    True, christianity is from the middle east but we have had a christian culture for a few hundred years and modern freemasonry came out of this so no we are not theifs.
     
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  20. Bro Book

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    Only after getting caught .

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