List of Lodges Masonic/PH question

Discussion in 'Masonic Jurisprudence' started by LukeD, Jun 21, 2011.

  1. LukeD

    LukeD Registered User

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    I've been instructed through a recent program I took that the GLoT does not recognize any of the PHGL, and does not allow visitation or communication. When I looked at the 2010 List of Lodges Masonic, it shows that the GLoT recognizes PHGL of California and Connecticut. So, is visitation and communication allowed between members from GLoT and these PH members?
     
  2. Beathard

    Beathard Premium Member

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    GLoT recognizes PHGLoT and visa versa. They do not allow visitation or communication between the two in Texas. If you are in another state, you are supposed to abide by the regulations in that state. I am currently in Kansas and visited a recognized lodge. The secretary is the Worshipful Master of the PH lodge. This is allowed by Texas because it is allowed in Kansas. It would MoT be allowed in Texas.
     
  3. owls84

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    This is something that is commonly taught wrong with the List of Lodges Masonic. This book is published for most grand jurisdictions in the US and possibly some abroad. They change the cover to suit your Grand Lodge. So by doing this they have to come up with a way to suit each jurisdiction even though some may recognize more than the next. The way of doing this is once you look at a Grand Jurisdiction, PHGLofCA for instance, then you would have to flip to our jurisdiction's section, Texas for us, and read the fine print in the bottom of the section. It actually says we recognize all jurisdictions in this book EXCEPT....

    I teach this in the ALL Program when I teach it. It is a good way to teach it and really needs to be taught. I am glad you asked this question.
     
  4. David Duke

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    Didn't know this, I had always assumed if it was listed it was recognized, thanks for this valuable information; guess I need to start paying better attention to the fine print.
     
  5. owls84

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    Another thing I teach along this topic is to be sure and not to use the List of Lodges Masonic for Lodges in this state. I usually ask someone in the group to look at the book and tell me if I can visit Panhandle Lodge. Since it is listed in the 2011 version I get a yes. Then I hand someone an older version of the List of Constituent Lodges in Texas and ask them. Same response is given. Then I have someone get a 2011 version to see if I can visit Panhandle Lodge and it is listed as "Suspended" in the book. This teaches a couple of things and is a good way to give an example and show them how each book is used individually. Since the new versions of the Constituent Lodges are in PDF we use our projector/laptop for this.

    Again it is in my ALL Program I teach.
     
  6. LukeD

    LukeD Registered User

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    Thank you for the clarification. I'm a new MM, and will be stationed outside of Texas soon, so I picked up a copy of the book, but was thrown off by what the ALL program taught.
     
  7. Kenneth Lottman

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    Is their a digital copy of the list of lodges, Masonic and constituent lodges out there somewhere and if so where can I get it?
     
  8. LukeD

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    I had to ask my Secretary for a copy. Not sure if it only comes from the GL.
     
  9. Michaelstedman81

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    Hey, man. Congrats on the MM. I was wondering about that the other day and how all of that was going.

    I was going to ask this same thing. Has anyone posted this somewhere or can anyone send this through email? Or is this something that the GLoT doesn't want floating around or maybe wants to charge money for?
     
  10. LukeD

    LukeD Registered User

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    Thanks Bro. It was awesome.
     
  11. owls84

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    The List of Lodges Masonic is only in hard copy. The Constituent Lodges in Texas is in both PDF and hard copy. All should be purchased through your Secretary for a minimal fee. I think the List of Lodges Masonic comes out in the spring and the Constituent Lodges is published in the Fall after officer elections.
     
  12. LukeD

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    Where can one find the PDF file for the constituent Lodges? Ive looked at the GLoT website, but did not see anything. Thank you.
     
  13. David Duke

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    Go through your lodge secretary GL frowns on making copies they must cover the costs of compiling the info besides they're not expensive. If I'm not mistake it's about $14.00 .
     
  14. owls84

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    It is sold by the Grand Secretary and cannot be found online. Each Lodge was sent a PDF of it on a disk and should be able to let you use it but copying it would be illegal. Grand Lodge does make like $5 for you and I to purchase the PDF version. Personally a hard copy kept in a vehicle would be ideal since it lists every Lodge in Texas and the Master's, Warden's and Secretary's personal contact info.
     
  15. david918

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    I like the hard copy myself.When I had a job traveling all over the eastern half of the state I kept it in my car.That was one reason I was able to visit 60-70 different lodges here in Texas.Visiting a lodge beat sitting in a motel room.
     

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