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Macoy codebook

tomasball

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The Grand Lodge is now providing a link to Macoy's publishing, where we find the King Solomon Lone Star edition marketed as "the only officially approved ritual by the Grand Lodge of Texas". Someone's memory of that meeting is much different from mine.
 

TMcgee

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I’m excited. I feel like a new page is turning in Texas.


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Bro. Kurt P.M.

2018 14G DCO
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I have one and it looks good ... I was told that it does have a few errors ... but it's better than the last version .
 
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Benjamin Baxter

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I thought the committee on work was going to correct it and Maccoy was to be the sole publisher. I would think it would be accurate. That was what I remembered from Grand Lodge, but I have remembered many things wrong in the past.


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chrmc

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I thought the committee on work was going to correct it and Maccoy was to be the sole publisher. I would think it would be accurate. That was what I remembered from Grand Lodge, but I have remembered many things wrong in the past.

I believe that to be the case. Not sure where Blake has his info, but do not believe his statement is accurate. However feel free to enlighten us.
 
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Benjamin Baxter

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I believe that to be the case. Not sure where Blake has his info, but do not believe his statement is accurate. However feel free to enlighten us.


I could have been very well mistaken. It has been so long for the end product I have forgotten how it was laid out. It still will never substitute for mouth to ear. There are some phrases and tricks that my teacher taught me that a book could never take its place. However if there are some that will strictly use the book to memorize they should have a corrected version. They can still mess that up on their own.... hahaha


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Ripcord22A

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but I have remembered many things wrong in the past
And this is part of the problem. At least if it's written, even in code, there won't be any dispute on the tense of the word.....

Both of.my jurisdictions have a cipher and the GL have a nonciphered version so in the rare case there is a dispute u call the GRSec and say I need page 22 line 4 word 6 and they say it's WORD (just an example not actual ritual)

Also it allows the candidate to study on their own

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Plustax

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And this is part of the problem. At least if it's written, even in code, there won't be any dispute on the tense of the word.....

Both of.my jurisdictions have a cipher and the GL have a nonciphered version so in the rare case there is a dispute u call the GRSec and say I need page 22 line 4 word 6 and they say it's WORD (just an example not actual ritual)

Also it allows the candidate to study on their own

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New Green book. All is correct

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CLewey44

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And this is part of the problem. At least if it's written, even in code, there won't be any dispute on the tense of the word.....

Both of.my jurisdictions have a cipher and the GL have a nonciphered version so in the rare case there is a dispute u call the GRSec and say I need page 22 line 4 word 6 and they say it's WORD (just an example not actual ritual)

Also it allows the candidate to study on their own

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No doubt....its hard enough to find the time just to learn the cat lectures much less rituals and whatnot. We were eligible to buy the RED book in OK upon receiving the 3rd degree. Very valuable.
 

dfreybur

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It's just the beginning. Before long, mouth to ear won't mean anything. It'll be who can best memorize an inaccurate cipher book.

I hold membership in a cipher jurisdiction and a written-out-except-specific-words jurisdiction. All the work is done by memorization in all tiled meetings.

What happens is during practice there is a definite right answer not two ritual experts going "What I have is ..."
 

Ripcord22A

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I hold membership in a cipher jurisdiction and a written-out-except-specific-words jurisdiction. All the work is done by memorization in all tiled meetings.

What happens is during practice there is a definite right answer not two ritual experts going "What I have is ..."

Bingo!
 

LK600

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Our's is by cipher, and I wonder how areas that use strictly mouth to ear keep things straight (accurate). Having said that, sometimes it feels like I'm learning double.... first learning the information, second learning how to decode lol.
 
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