Montana Grand Master Removed

Discussion in 'Masonic Blogs' started by My Freemasonry, Aug 10, 2012.

  1. In Montana today, at a Tribunal in Billings, four Past Grand Masters removed the sitting Grand Master, Tom Duffy. I have no other information than this at this point. Can anyone provide more details? No gossip, just the facts please.[​IMG]


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  2. KSigMason

    KSigMason Traveling Templar Site Benefactor

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    This is very sad to hear. He had his right to remove the Grand Secretary for conduct I consider to be very unbecoming of a Mason.
     
  3. Benton

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    Yuck. It's sad when situations spiral. I hope Montana Masonry can heal after this ordeal.
     
  4. JJones

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    Seems like a lot of stuff like this has been going on lately, none of it shows us in a favorable light.
     
  5. KFerguson84

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    You're absolutely correct, Bro. Barry. I've heard horror stories about the GS, and his real life brother, the Asst GS in Montana.
     
  6. SeeKer.mm

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    So.... what happened?
     
  7. felix_mason

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    Brother Ferguson, what are the horror stories about the GS and his real life brother, the Asst GS, that youve heard?
     
  8. Frater Cliff Porter

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    Hey Daniel I think its fair to let the Brother know that you used to post here under the name Dion and that you are the Asst. Secretary of Montana in question.
     
  9. davidjones201

    davidjones201 Registered User

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    What happened?
     
  10. bupton52

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    That would be very fair!!
     
  11. Spring TX MM

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    Always on top of things, Brother. Very nice∴

    S&F
    Kyle
     
  12. KSigMason

    KSigMason Traveling Templar Site Benefactor

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    It should be fair to note that the AGS is the biological son of the GS, not his brother. ;)
     
  13. Mac

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    Brethren, I must admit I am disappointed. Our obligations should be binding, in whole. We should not be quick to defame the name of any of our brothers, otherwise Freemasonry is no different than any other organization out there. We can read and write as many books as we want, discuss the beauties of the Craft, etc. It's all for naught when we do not conduct ourselves as Masons.
     
  14. Brotimpa62

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    I am new to this site and saddened with what seems like conduct that is beneath us as masons. :(
     
  15. LOOSE_TEKZ_911

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    911

    I am seeking knowledge here in New Jersey but after reading this im second guessing my thoughts of it.
     
  16. Frater Cliff Porter

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    Duplicate....
     
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  17. Frater Cliff Porter

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    Re: 911

    This issue is a bigger issue than the limited comments on this forum would allow and I think the Brethren are trying to post their support on one side of the issue or another without providing too much that would be improper.

    The Grand Lodge of Colorado was saddened to see the Grand Master removed and had suffered great harm at the hands of the secretary and his son in this and I don't believe Montana has seen the last of what will be a tumultuous road for them.

    They have my prayers and my thoughts our with the Brethren.

    911 if you are looking for a Fraternity that has no hiccups, obstacles, or occasional frustration, you need to find one without human beings...and Masonry is full of them.

    We fail, we succeed, we rise and we fall. It is part of life and thus part of the Fraternity. But it is full with some of the greatest men in the world and some of the best experiences of my life have been Masonic.

    It is likely the wonderful men and the great experiences that make the negative ones stand out. So much so, we as a Fraternity don't even want to hear about them they are so hard to take.

    But that does not mean the Craft is not worthy.

    I would also provide that if you are the same Loose Tek 911 that posted:
    Goin away « PSYCHOTIK and you are in fact heading back to prison...then the Fraternity should be the last thing on your mind.
     
  18. Mac

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    Re: 911

    Do you represent the Grand Lodge? And what did the Secretary and Son (insert Sanford & Son theme) do that caused great harm? I personally do not know all of the details, and this kind of statement is EXACTLY what I'm driving at: we are defaming the good names of brother masons, and we don't know all the facts. Back-channel PMs, etc, are not exemplary of "meeting on the level."

    Agreed.
     
  19. Frater Cliff Porter

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    I do. I am a voting member of Grand Lodge and the Chair of Grand Lodge Education for the Most Worshipful Grand Lodge of Colorado.

    The Grand Secretary and the Assistant Grand Secretary for instance created an unauthorized webpage defaming the Rocky Mountain Masonic Conference that would occur in Colorado and encourage people not to attend. There campaign to ask people not to come and not support the conference while it was in Colorado was successful enough that attendance was cut in half initially.

    After we contacted the various Grand Lodges, we recovered some of the numbers, but unable to meet contractual deadlines for the numbers THOUSANDS of dollars were taken from the GL of Colorado budget to cover the cost that otherwise would have been covered through registrations.

    The defaming nature of the statements was eventually removed by order of the GM in Montana.

    Reid, the GS of Montana, also tried to rally the Conference of Grand Secretaries against Colorado speakers at the Conference and created an embarrassing situation for some when he stood up and made a big deal out of refusing to listen.

    The Assistant GS called Colorado's Masonic educational programs several names and has implied that we are boarding on irregular Masonry because we allow Traditional Observance lodges in the state. He believes we are creating a Masonic religion. Very tin foil hat type accusations, but they were enough to cause concern and our GM reached out to ask it to stop.
     
  20. scialytic

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    Good catch!

    I must admit...the schoolboy in me is screaming for answers! But we are above that. That only makes this situation worse. I hope all goes well with the constituency that they are able to vote in the right Leadership--even if the "best qualified" had just been removed. Prayers to the affected communities and parties...I truly believe that good will prevail.
     
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