Morals and Dogma

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  1. eagle1966

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    I have a copy of said book, copy right 1950. anyone interested in buying? It is in good condition. Open to any offers.

    no longer for sale 9/8/2012
     
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  2. widows son

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    How bout 40 bucks?
     
  3. eagle1966

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    send you a PM
     
  4. Michaelstedman81

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    Just curious, and saying this for the sake of confirming what I am thinking (and not pointing a finger), but doesn't Pike say something in the beginning of Morals and Dogma that the book is not meant to be sold? Or that no man or company should make a profit from the selling of the book? Just asking. I really am sure that I saw that somewhere. I have a copy that was printed in 1921, but it is packed up in a box so I can't look it up. Can anyone confirm this for me?
     
  5. Michael Neumann

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    You might be correct because they are free on Amazon.
     
  6. calee

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    You might be correct because they are free on Amazon.

    I checked Amazon. I did not find any free. The cheapest I saw was $9.95 and the most expensive I saw was $91.91
     
  7. jvarnell

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    Here is one I have found. It looks like a copy of the actual book it may not be searchable.
    http://www.rorysliberationfront.com/Morals_and_Dogma.pdf
     
  8. Michaelstedman81

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    Yea, I'm almost totally positive that I did read that in the first couple of pages of Morals and Dogma. Though, I don't too many people that aren't affiliated with Masonry have any clue what the book is, much less opened the book up to see that part of the page. Heck, I doubt most of them would even heed what it says in the first place. Eventually, I am going to get that thing out of the box it is in and go make sure exactly what it says if nobody else has a copy handy and can post it here...lol

    Just a question about "copyright".... If a book says it has a "copyright" of 1950, does that mean when that book was printed? Or was that just the last time that all the "legal" stuff and publisher stuff was handle to be able to print the book again for a certain number of years? Anyone know that? Lol, I don't feel too bad about hijacking the thread since the original poster has already completed what he set out to do on here lol.
     
  9. Brent Heilman

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    On that stuff I sent you there is an electronic copy of the book. See, no unboxing to check it out! I am not sure what it does say though I will have to look.
     
  10. GPmm

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    Can anyone send me an electronic copy gap92987@hotmail.com
     
  11. jvarnell

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    Copyrights are good for 10 years unless someone renews them then I am not sure how many times they can be renewed.
     
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  13. Frater Cliff Porter

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    M/D is no longer copyrighted. But do not copy stuff only 10 years old!!

    The term of copyright for a particular work depends on several factors, including whether it has been published, and, if so, the date of first publication. As a general rule, for works created after January 1, 1978, copyright protection lasts for the life of the author plus an additional 70 years. For an anonymous work, a pseudonymous work, or a work made for hire, the copyright endures for a term of 95 years from the year of its first publication or a term of 120 years from the year of its creation, whichever expires first. For works first published prior to 1978, the term will vary depending on several factors. To determine the length of copyright protection for a particular work, consult chapter 3 of the Copyright Act (title 17 of the United States Code).
     
  14. Michael Neumann

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    "It is hoped and expected that each will furnish himself with a
    copy, and make himself familiar with it; for which purpose, as the cost
    of the work consists entirely in the printing and binding, it will be
    furnished at a price as moderate as possible. No _individual_ will
    receive pecuniary profit from it, except the agents for its sale.

    It has been copyrighted, to prevent its republication elsewhere, and the
    copyright, like those of all the other works prepared for the Supreme
    Council, has been assigned to Trustees for that Body. Whatever profits
    may accrue from it will be devoted to purposes of charity.

    The Brethren of the Rite in the United States and Canada will be
    afforded the opportunity to purchase it, nor is it _forbidden_ that
    other Masons shall; but they will not be solicited to do so."

    Pike, A. (1905). Morals and dogma of the ancient and accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry. Charleston: A.M. 5641.
     
  15. JustinScott

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    You can also download a digital copy of a bunch of masonic books with the masonic library app. It is cheap and easy to use
     
  16. Phre-massen.nash

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    The following work has been prepared by authority of the Supreme Council of the Thirty-third Degree,for the Southern Jurisdiction of the United States, by the Grand Commander, and is now published byits direction. It contains the Lectures of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite in that jurisdiction, andis specially intended to be read and studied by the Brethren of that obedience, in connection with theRituals of the Degrees. It is hoped and expected that each will furnish himself with a copy, and makehimself familiar with it; for which purpose, as the cost of the work consists entirely in the printing andbinding, it will be furnished at a price as moderate as possible. No ​
    individual will receive pecuniaryprofit from it, except the agents for its sale.It has been copyrighted, to prevent its republication elsewhere, and the copyright, like those of all theother works prepared for the Supreme Council, has been assigned to Trustees for that Body. Whateverprofits may accrue from it will be devoted to purposes of charity.The Brethren of the Rite in the United States and Canada will be afforded the opportunity to purchase
    it, nor is it forbidden that other Masons shall; but they will not be solicited to do so.


    FROM THE PREFACE
     
  17. cemab4y

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    There is a new "Translation" of M&D. The verbiage has been updated to a more modern form, to enable modern readers to understand the meaning of the text more easily. See

    Morals and Dogma for the 21st Century

    or

    www (dot) morals-and-dogma (dot) com
     
  18. JTM

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    gents, this discussion originally belonged in the "for sale" forum. It has since been sold and I'm not a huge fan of this thread having escaped our moderation. If you would like to start up a conversation regarding any topics discussed herein, please do so. This thread is, however, closed.
     
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