Need Urgent Clarification!!! Hbd

Discussion in 'Becoming a Freemason' started by Mqc1298, Sep 28, 2019.

  1. Mqc1298

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    I need help with understanding the issue of why is John G. Jones considered bogus but everything I’ve read (on google, please don’t chew me out to bad) has him as a legitimate mason who helped start the Scottish Rite.. I may be wrong but it’s all so confusing.. I see the animosity with PHA, but can’t find much from Mainstream POV.. Can someone please give me a much simpler understanding of it all..
     
  2. Glen Cook

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  3. Bloke

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    Animosity ? Not from me - I am proud of my Price Hall Brothers !

    This might help
    https://www.myfreemasonry.com/threads/we-are-not-all-brothers.20377/
     
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  4. Glen Cook

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  5. Bloke

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    Is "PHA" always going to be used to describe an illegitimate body ?
     
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  6. Winter

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    PHA isn't illegitimate but it appears Mr. Jones became so. I think most of us here have always been very supportive of PHA. But after doing some reading on John G. Jones I can see why he is viewed in such a negative light. Despite a laudable early Masonic career it looks like he took an odd turn. Setting up clandestine Lodges, conferring degrees to people without a petition being submitted to a regular Lodge. There appears to be a long list of his clandestine activity. I'm sure there are two sides to this story, but it definitely appears that he became a clandestine mason. Not to confuse him with regular PHA Freemasonry who are not irregular or clandestine.

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  7. Glen Cook

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    As noted by our colleague, PHA is legitimate. John G Jones GLs are illegitimate.
     
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  8. Keith C

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    Bloke: I believe the OP's reference to "animosity with PHA" is describing the legitimate PHA GLs being firmly against the illegitimate John G Jones GLs, not any animosity between PHL and other regular GLs.
     
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  9. Warrior1256

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    Yeah, I've read up quite a bit on this matter your view certainly seems correct in my opinion.
     
  10. Mqc1298

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    That’s correct.. I’ve read The Phylaxis page by page, but I can find nothing from a mainstream POV..
     
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  11. Glen Cook

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    Regarding what?
     
  12. Travelling Man91

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    One thing to note, John G Jones is credited for helping start up AEAONMS (Ancient Egyptian Arabic Order Nobles Mystic Shrine ) in other words the Prince Hall Shriners. I am not familiar with him starting the “Consistory” you are speaking of.


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  13. Travelling Man91

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    John G Jones was a Expelled Freemason whom after being banned from all regular and recognized jurisdictions went and started his own lodges/ grand lodges.
     
  14. Mqc1298

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    My apologies, I misspoke on the proper name.
     
  15. Mqc1298

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    Their views on John G. Jones. I’m asking for that specifically because I was looking for an objective POV..
     
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    Hi I'm now
     
  17. Glen Cook

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    It’s an irregular group. Except for CA, there are only two regular GLs in each state: the SGL and the PHA GL.
     
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  18. Mqc1298

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    Better than later!!!!
     
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  19. Mqc1298

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    Ok thanks!!! Time to look for a lodge for healing then.. Kind of excited though..
     
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  20. Glen Cook

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    There are some good folk down there in the two GLs.
     

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