No Women in the Frat but Could we Share our Rituals

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Can we Share Rituals with Women?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Not only No, squash the Women talk

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  1. rhitland

    rhitland Founding Member Premium Member

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    Having Women in our Frat probably is not the best thing I agree but could we not have a Masonic Sorority that has the same GL laws, same Lodge setup, & exact same rituals just Women only but where we are all one unified body and could discover the Mysteries through Masonry together?
     
  2. Blake Bowden

    Blake Bowden Administrator Staff Member

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    I would probably support having a separate branch of Freemasonry for Women.
     
  3. cmoreno85tx

    cmoreno85tx Registered User

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    I'm down with that. Awesome idea !!
     
  4. Nate C.

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    There is already just such an organization. It's called Order of Eastern Star. I tend to be pretty open minded about progressive ideas, but I don't think making Masonry fully co-ed is a step in the right direction.
     
  5. david918

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    There is already a grand lodge of Women masons http://www.owf.org.uk/
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  6. owls84

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    I am for an all women sorority of masonry. I think they should be able to have the lessons that we as Masons are taught. But I don't think they should mix in Lodge at least anytime soon. Really no reason just don't know about that.
     
  7. cpmorgan2

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    Why cant we drop this women in Masonry talk? I am not sexist. But in all 3 degrees we do something that a real woman would not do in front of any other than her spouse, not a room full of men or a room full of women either. Think about what that thing is that I'm talking about...
     
  8. jonesvilletexas

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    No, not at this time, our work would have to change and I am not for changing any of the work inregard to woman.
     
  9. Texas_Justice85

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  10. owls84

    owls84 Moderator Premium Member

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    What if women had their own sorority that was strictly women with Masonic principals. Much like the Eastern Star but only women? I mean looks like the concensus is NO for women in Blue Lodge.
     
  11. jonesvilletexas

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    Brother Texas, are you the one that will have his MM degree Friday night at the Grand Lodge Temple?
    If so I might be working in the degree M:.W:. Griffin and I talked back in July but the committee has not told me anything as of yet, but you can bet I will be there, would not miss it for the world.
     
  12. jonesvilletexas

    jonesvilletexas Premium Member

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    Brother Blake I love your new Logo, with the Red, White and blue, looks great. Can I use it in some work I am doing on other web sites?
     
  13. Blake Bowden

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    Sure, I have a larger logo if you prefer.
     
  14. gortex6

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    There is such a thing, but they are irregular.
    Grand Orient of US
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  15. Texas_Justice85

    Texas_Justice85 Registered User

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    I sure am. I cannot tell you how excited I am and how greatful that my brothers have done this for me.
     
  16. Texas_Justice85

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    Some people call it the PTA :D
     
  17. Curtis Wilson

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    There is an organization called Co-Masonry of America. It has lodges throughout North America. I found it when searching though Colorado and stumbled across it. It was not AF &AM. This is still Men only, with outlets for Women in OES.
     
  18. eagle1966

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    don't we "make good "men" better"?
     
  19. jwardl

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    Women are certainly every bit as capable of learning and living by masonic principals as men -- but as others have said, many already do, in the OES.

    Since female petitioners must be related to a master mason in good standing, however, the opportunity for ladies to join is a bit more restrictive than the blue lodge is for us men. OTOH, their petitions are much shorter and less detailed than ours. Perhaps a female branch of masonry itself wouldn't be a bad thing, but it would open up a whole new can of worms. For example:

    * Would we fraternallly recognize them, and they, us? SHOULD we? If so, what about co-masons, who admit both genders, but are generally considered clandestine?
    * Might very well cause a major decline in membership of the OES -- perhaps even a fatal one.
    * Would they, like the Star ladies, be sisters -- or like us, brothers?
    * Could we/should we go beyond merely recognizing them -- and consider them in amity? Doing such a thing would effectively make blue lodges co-ed anyway, wouldn't it?

    Personally, I'm not for much of anything that changes the current definition of what makes a Texas blue lodge regular -- not shortening the work, nor admitting women. Our tradition is what defines us, and sets us apart from all the other fraternal/public groups out there. We don't ned to be more like the rest of them.
     
  20. scottmh59

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    lol:beer:
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmExAiCcaPk"]YouTube - Helen Reddy I Am Woman LIVE Midnight Special 1975[/ame]

    woman are in numbers too big to ignore
     
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