Petticoat Masons

Discussion in 'General Freemasonry Discussion' started by Ripcord22A, Jul 26, 2016.

  1. Ripcord22A

    Ripcord22A Site Benefactor

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    has anyone ever heard the term Petticoat Masons used towards MMs who have joined the OES? I heard it a lot in Oregon but when I mentioned it here in NM no one knew what I was talking about.
     
  2. MarkR

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    Never heard of it.
     
  3. Glen Cook

    Glen Cook G A Cook Site Benefactor

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    Yes.
     
  4. nfasson

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    Sounds a bit derogatory, since the OES is an appendant body and allows both men and related females to join. They have a beautiful old mansion for an HQ in DC, so maybe the misogyny is more jealousy than anything else.
     
  5. Ripcord22A

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    its wasn't used towards the women of the OES but the men that join, I even heard the MMs in the OES use it in reference to themselves..."youre in oes?" "yup im a petticoat mason."
     
  6. Glen Cook

    Glen Cook G A Cook Site Benefactor

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    Are you a Mason?
     
  7. nfasson

    nfasson Registered User

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    I like that. Self-deprecating and funny always wins the day. Time to join!
     
  8. Ripcord22A

    Ripcord22A Site Benefactor

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    according to his profile hes been a member of this forum since 2013, but is not a Mason
     
  9. Bloke

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    I've heard it but do not like it because it does not create a favourable impression. Likewise is OES standing for Order of the Eating Sisters. We should try to kill off "clever" references like that and treat all with respect
     
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  10. Warrior1256

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    Agreed. I have not heard of this term myself.
     
  11. Ripcord22A

    Ripcord22A Site Benefactor

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    So its an international term huh? that's interesting. as for your OES joke, that's kinda funny. Sorry Im a soldier and the most inappropriate things are hilarious to me, like your mom jokes.

    As for not creating favorable impressions, they are just terms used amongst masons, I would never refer to a brother as a petticoat mason to a non initiated, or refer to a brother as such if I didn't know him on a personal level and knew he knew I was just joking.
     
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  12. Bloke

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    Yet, in using it, and a MM who hears it and is thinking about joining, it might put him off.

    But I do understand where you are coming from... I'm just in front of the public so much as a Freemason and am careful of these things. Maybe I'm hyper sensitive, but I've also been a salesperson and see a deal die because of saying the smallest wrong thing...
     
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  13. Brother JC

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    Hey Bloke, where does your GL stand on OES? I know UGLE doesn't recognize them, but haven't researched other foreign GLs.
     
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  14. Bloke

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    OES are recognised. They're in our official guide, magazine and use our buildings We can join them.
     
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    (Duplicate post deleted)
     
  16. MarkR

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    It's more than UGLE simply not recognizing them. They consider them to be co-Masonry and clandestine.
     
  17. MBC

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    Ah I think yes, only Scotland recognises them on the British Isles as I know(?)
     
  18. Bloke

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    Wow. I didnt know that. I wonder how OES found its way here.,. I've never had any interest in it, but will ask around. I know i'm very naughty, but when women ask about the gender devide, I talk oes and Amaranth which are both here, if they really push the point and dont like the idea of our Landmarks, I just direct the to LeDroit Humane....

    I really didnt know about UGLE & OES, I wonder if our OES has the same ritual....
     

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