Secrecy

Discussion in 'Frequently Asked Questions' started by MeCorby, May 18, 2016.

  1. MeCorby

    MeCorby Registered User

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    Hi everyone !!!

    Just wondering, once become a Mason what you can/cant tell. How about sharing the information with my wife.

    Does any of you is open to the public I mean does people know you are Mason ?

    Thank you in the advance !!!
     
  2. Travelling Man91

    Travelling Man91 Registered User

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    Yes people know I'm a mason. I wear a ring everyday, I have a emblem on my vehicle and from time to time I wear ball caps and polo shirts with the square and compass emblem on it.

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  3. MeCorby

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    Thank you for your answer...i have been reading a lot and I come across a post on othe site, (cant remember where) that freemasonry may affect your job or life - in which way? Personally I dont believe it however it made me think about it.
     
  4. Travelling Man91

    Travelling Man91 Registered User

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    Well say your employed somewhere and the CEO/ boss is anti mason and they find out your a freemason it could cause problems. But the same could be said for anything.

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  5. MeCorby

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    Fair enough I thought it may be more to it...how about sharing information with your spouse ? Is there something we can reveal to them ? Isnt the secrecy against the marrige vows ?


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  6. coachn

    coachn Coach John S. Nagy Premium Member

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    Of course it is not against the marriage vows, unless you have vows that state you shall share everything with your spouse. I don't know of any sane marriage vow that goes that direction. Your mileage may differ.

    Any Freemasonic promise is simply not to talk about specific things with anyone who is not Recognized to be a Freemason by your jurisdiction and at your pay grade. These are not secrets; although they may be called that. They are only things that you will not discuss as stated.
     
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  7. MeCorby

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    Thank you ever so much...still miles to go before I get to know a bit about freemasonry. Have you got any advise to all newbies ? I mean to all who wants to join fraternity ?


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  8. coachn

    coachn Coach John S. Nagy Premium Member

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    Yeah, know the reasons that you are joining for and don't just give lip service to those reasons. Let your investigators know these reasons and ask them how these interests will be served.
     
  9. Bloke

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    Different people will have different answers. Always best to err on the side of caution. That said, our jurisdiction has a ritual book. One sits beside bed to try to encourage me to study, but my partner has looked over it and I've got no problem with that, all the "secrets" are blanked out with spaces **** and ______

    Different places have different cultures on "secrecy". By memory you're in the UK, I would ask the members of the lodge you have applied to about this.
     
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  10. MeCorby

    MeCorby Registered User

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    I will Mention this during our next meeting on Saturday :) thank you for all your answers
     
  11. dfreybur

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    One of the goals of Masonry is to make good men better. We do this by many means. Some explicit like our large scale charities being something good men do. Most implicit like the effect of spending time with other men working to better themselves.

    Of course self betterment effects all phases of our lives.

    If you disbelieve this simple principle why would you bother coming among us? It's not a good sign.

    Fussing about secrecy issues is a worse sign. That suggests that you don't trust and are therefore not to be trusted.
     
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  12. MeCorby

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    Hi and thank you for your respond.
    By saying I dont believe, I meant, Not believe in what people are saying about they why Masonry will affect my job. One of the main reason I want to join is that I want to become a better man...hopefully when it comes to the petition it will not be rejected
     
  13. Ripcord22A

    Ripcord22A Site Benefactor

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    @MeCorby where are you from...Im just curious cause you say the UK but yet your vocabulary reminds me of some ones who's first language is not English,,,,,if you are not originally from the UK where are you from?
     
  14. MeCorby

    MeCorby Registered User

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    Well spottetd. Originally I am from Poland, living in the UK for over 13 years
     
  15. Ripcord22A

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    Ok cool.
     
  16. MeCorby

    MeCorby Registered User

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    I am still in the process of learning :) thats why my language isnt perfect. It will probably take another 10 or 20 years but hey...when I first moved to the UK I couldnt say a word but now...its much better :)
     
  17. Scoops

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    One thing I would add is that, compared to our left-pondian brethren, masons here in the UK seem to be a bit more reticent in advertising their affiliation. This, probably, is because if the bad rap we get here in the press and public conscience.

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  18. MeCorby

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    Thanks...i have noticed that people in here doesnt want talk about the masonry and ive always wondered why. Your answer explains a good chunk of it. What part of the UK are you from ?
     
  19. Mike Martin

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    Here in England Freemasons are encouraged to be open about their membership (ESPECIALLY to your significant other) without being too in everybodies' faces about it.

    This is because the Craft in England went under cover during WW2 (see here for details: http://forum.thefreemason.com/Topic35640.aspx ) and retained an air of over-privacy due to the rise of the USSR until the early 80s. During that 40 odd year period many Freemasons assumed incorrectly that Freemasonry had always been "secret" and treated it as such which led to the rumours and claims made amongst non-Masons about "dodgy goings-on" in "secret Lodges".

    It is true that being too open about your membership could affect your job, for example if you happen to be employed by a tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist who believes that freemasons are trying to take over the World.
     
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  20. ChristopherNance

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    My last two bosses were Masons so I've been fortunate. There are, however, many anti - masons out there whom are convinced that we are a Satanic cult. My father in law is one of them. He gave me a lecture and told me that I didn't quit masonry that he could not support our marriage. At first I used to turn my ring to hide the fact around him, but now I plaster certificates and aprons in strategic places that I know it will bother him the most. In my opinion it is the same persecution our masonic ancestors had to deal with.

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