Speaking of white aprons, does your jurisdiction perform the long or short form apron lecture?

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  1. Mosaic

    Mosaic Registered User

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    Ive seen it done both ways. Does your jurisdiction call for the long or short form version?
     
  2. goomba

    goomba Neo-Antient Site Benefactor

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    The only one I've ever seen in person and in the ritual book is around 400 words. That makes it longer than the one used in Duncan's Ritual. So this is my roundabout way of saying I don't know if it is long or short form as it's all we got ;).
     
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  3. Bloke

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    (I have no idea what you are talking about.. might be called "extension of the badge ".... *googles*... yep.. we only have one version of it here.)
     
  4. Ripcord22A

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    We have a few different apron lectures in my Jurisdictions. they are completely different from each other so there is no long or short form


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  5. Bloke

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    Hmm. Different ones within the same degree ?
    (and thinking on it, we have "The Badge" and then the "Badge Extension" in each degree... so I guess we have more than one in each degree..)...
     
  6. HoldenMonty

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    I'm still fairly new but the only apron lecture that I have seen is at the end of each degree and in the first they talk about the origins of it for operative masons and then how it's worn for each degree after you receive that degree to make sure you know how to wear it properly.
     
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  7. Brother JC

    Brother JC Vigilant Staff Member Site Benefactor

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    We only have one degree with an apron lecture, the EA.
    And as Rip said, there are many variations but no long-and-short version.
     
  8. Ripcord22A

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    Apron lecture yes but as the brother above mentioned there is the "how to wear it" instructions as well in all three
     
  9. Ripcord22A

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    Think back to when u were presented the apron...."more noble then the Eagle...purple of our fraternity may rest on your shoulders...." there's a lot more there then that but it's all I can remember right now
     
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  10. Glen Cook

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    I think there are two pieces of ritual being discussed:

    1. Instruction , usually by the SW, as to now the apron is to be worn in each degree.
    2.Presentation of the apron in the first degree. I’ve only seen the long form presentation in the US. UGLE typically does s short form, bit may do a long form.
     
  11. goomba

    goomba Neo-Antient Site Benefactor

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    I responded assuming the OP was talking about 2.
     
  12. Brother JC

    Brother JC Vigilant Staff Member Site Benefactor

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    As did I.
     
  13. Brother_Steve

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    Short form I guess. I've heard New York's version which is longer than ours.
     
  14. dfreybur

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    Texas answer - Short form version happens in the 1st degree. Long form version happens in the 3rd degree. Thus both are required. This is one variation on the ritual that I very much like.

    California and Illinois answer - Short form must be learned to qualify for the chairs so most brothers prefer it. Long form must be learned for certification as a ritual instructor so a smaller number of brothers prefer it.
     
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  15. Keith C

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    You will quickly learn that EVERYTHING is different in PA!
     
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  16. Bloke

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    Great to see you back here Doug !!!!
     
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  17. HoldenMonty

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    I am gradually learning this. Since I live right on the NY/PA border my Dad and I are going to visit a couple NY lodges to see the difference. It was cool though he went to a NY stated meeting when I ended up going to a wedding and their district deputy was having his visit and the district deputy gave my dad his districts pin.
     
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