"WE WILL BE BALLOT ING WITH THE USE OF ELECTRONIC VOTING MACHINE"

Discussion in 'General Freemasonry Discussion' started by Bloke, May 24, 2018.

  1. Bloke

    Bloke Premium Member

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    So I was just looking at http://princehallny.org/ and noticed a enticing "Proclamation Issued March 1, 2018" so naturally had to look at it :) No, there was no succession or exclusion or withdrawn of amity notice, but the summons to the "One Hundred and Seventy Third (173rd), ANNUAL GRAND LODGE COMMUNICATION. It will commence on Thursday June14th, 2018..."

    But something did catch my eye:

    On page 3 "
    WE WILL BE BALLOT
    ING WITH THE USE OF ELECTRONIC
    VOTING MACHINE"

    We often talk about this over a beer, especially using online voting, but here voting is by those present by show of hands or by secret ballot (latter being rare), although we do paper vote for exec positions, like the Board of General Purposes of Grand Lodge and (Dept) Grand Master Selection Panel via paper at lodge collected by officers and delivered to Sec who them posts them in.

    I would assume the above "electronic voting machine" is used on site and on site only, but are electronic forms of voting usual in the States or something new ? Is PH the only group using this tool ?
     
  2. dfreybur

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    For voting at Annual Communication, California has used punch cards for mechanical tabulation as far back as I can remember. That detail has meant that the results all come out at once all together as the cards are punched at the end of each discussion but all cards are counted together for all issues.

    Switching to an anonymized vote per issue isn't that large a change.

    In the US electronic voting machines are extremely common in civil elections. Touch screens menus with a printed receipt. Working in the computer industry I know far too much about the vulnerabilities of such devices to being hacked. Attending some political committee meet ups in my county I know far too much about instances of specific offices showing return data that has been clearly hacked.

    The only interesting part I noticed was the use of the word BALLOTING where I would have said voting. I tend to restrict the word ballot to balloting for degrees, affiliation, restoration and such.
     
  3. Warrior1256

    Warrior1256 Site Benefactor

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    The Grand Lodge of Kentucky uses electronic voting at its annual meeting.
     
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  4. David Duke

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    The GLoTX went to electronic voting 3 years ago. Sure saves a LOT of time. The last Communication we had two items that were less than 40 apart one of them less than 15 this is with about 2000 voting. A paper ballot would have taken at least an hour on each one both were done in minutes.


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  5. Bloke

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    We had a show of hands a few years ago with about 600 there and separated by a small margin, I think 14 votes, they were counted by Deacons by voters standing... Its interesting to hear voting is electronic - we don't use that for elections here (Fed, State & local gov) but use paper ballots..
     

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