I'm not sure about the rest of you, but I work in a rather dirty environment these days. It's tough enough to get home, try to get "freshened up" a bit, and get something clean on before I drive BACK in to town for the meeting. I have approximately an hour to do this in, and 20 minutes of this is driving. I have served wearing a uniform of some sort to make me look uniform for most of my adult life. I no longer want to be uniform... I am in a rural area, where a lot of the Brethren have livestock to tend to, and they don't always have as much time as I do to get ready. Perhaps if we all worked and lived in a more Metro setting, it would be easier. We intend absolutely NO disrespect for the Craft, one another, or the Lodge itself, but when you've been wrangling cattle, baling, and putting away hay, or just plain castrating hogs, it's not real easy to be proper in a short time. As for me, I may still have fresh auto paint in my hair, on my hands, or even be greasy depending on what I was doing that day in the shop (working for one of the larger body shops in this area) Many of us get a chance to put on a nice shirt, and clean jeans or slacks to get to Church on Sunday morning. I have not yet heard anyone fuss about any of us in our dress there, and this is NOT a Cowboy Church, just plain old Southern Baptist. Now, my ex-wife would love to spend time with you folks, as she was always trendy, and dressed to a T, but you may have noticed the ex part, we just were not compatible.... If I am visiting your Lodge, and it is formal attire, I will try my very best to be dressed as such, but if you look down on my appearance, because my jacket may not be as nice as many, or the tie is not suitable, I should have stayed at home. Thanks to Uncle Sam, and my Dad, I can tie a tie. I can tie it on you, better than I can on myself. That's from the short time I spent working at a funeral home... All in all, I just think we should be sensible about the dress, and make the best we can. I do agree that shorts, and make believe medical scrubs or BDU's are not really attire for the meetings unless you are a medical person, or military. Now, for a question, but not intended to make anyone anymore unhappy with me than you may already be. If you had the DDGM or other Official attending, and someone did show up in less than desirable attire, how would you approach them, and what would you do?