King Tut's dagger

Discussion in 'Philosophy, Religion and Spirituality' started by dlacaille, Jun 4, 2016.

  1. dlacaille

    dlacaille Premium Member


    I'm not saying anything about aliens, conspiracies or origins of anything, but as many times as we have seen Egyptian references to our heritage, I do find this interesting.

    History is sometimes fascinating and to know that a specific hieroglyph means "iron from the sky", to me, implies they knew more about science than we might have thought.

    Btw, couldn't find an exact forum for this so hopefully I placed it in an acceptable space.

    Have a good weekend Brothers

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  2. Brother JC

    Brother JC Vigilant Staff Member

    Every year, "iron from the sky" seems less uncommon. All the great blades of legend were said to be such and now science is beginning to discover that, again, legends are often based on facts.
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  3. dfreybur

    dfreybur Premium Member

    Stuff about ancient Egypt -

    They remained bronze age for a couple of centuries longer than the civilizations in Mesopotamia. Mesopotamia started using iron around 1300 BC; Egypt started using iron around 1100 BC. Back in high school I wrote a paper on the reasons why this might have happened given the short distances.

    King Tut was around 1300 BC during the bronze age. King Solomon was also bronze age - If your jurisdiction's ritual mentions iron specifically it's literally true that not sound of iron was heard in King Solomon's temple. Iron only existed in the world at the time in meteoric form. It would never have been used as a building tool in that era.

    At the time they didn't know how to covert ferrous/ferric oxide into metal. Not the same thing as not knowing iron exists as a metal. Probably implies they had no idea that ferrous/ferric oxide contained iron metal. Modern chemistry knowledge was still millennia in the future.

    Stuff about meteoric iron -

    It comes from the sky as metal and it contains nickel. This means it comes from the sky as a very hard metal that approximates stainless steel.

    It was rare and thus valuable, but had been known since people learned to melt metals.

    Because it approximates stainless steel it got used in weapons. King Arthur's Excalibur is sky metal according to legend.

    Adding it all together -

    When meteoric metal was found on the ground it would have eventually been made into a weapon and would have eventually have made it to a king. I used the word "when" deliberately. When not if.

    Finding a dagger of meteoric iron associated with King Tut is not surprising in the "How could that happen" sense. It's only surprising in the "Why didn't the next Pharaoh take it" sense.
  4. JamestheJust

    JamestheJust Registered User

    Here is one opinion on the origin of the word "chemistry" - derived from the Egyptian word for alchemy.

    "Chemistry, from the ancient Egyptian word "khēmia" meaning transmutation of earth, is the science of matter at the atomic to molecular scale, dealing primarily with collections of atoms, such as molecules, crystals, and metals."
  5. Warrior1256

    Warrior1256 Site Benefactor

    Good Stuff! Thanks for sharing Brother.
  6. Warrior1256

    Warrior1256 Site Benefactor

    Makes sense.
  7. Cruce

    Cruce Registered User

    I particularly find the Pyramids fascinating. The architecture, the ratio to the size of the planet, the spiral tunnels beneath, the harmonic resonance that they emit. The building techniques that match most of the other ancient pyramid building civilisations like the Bosnian pyramid and the mayan and Cambodian pyramid temples. The way they all used the same staggered block and copper bracket technique when they're supposed to have not came into contact with one another. I particularly find the elongated skulls interesting and the inbreeding of bloodlines and thus am particularly drawn to the life and death of Tutankhamun.
  8. Cruce

    Cruce Registered User

    Ironic Excalibur was made of meteor metal when it was a meteor that destroyed Camelot in 562ad.

    Is it ironic that that is "Iron"-ic?

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