When did your clock start?

[Brent Heilman]

@ Brent are u familar with being raised from a dead level

I am familiar with the EA, FC, and MM ritual for the state of Oklahoma. I notice that PHA uses terms that are quite different from what I am used to. So if you are asking about the MM ritual, then yes I am familiar. My only question was about the catchecism statement. I know that our (Oklahoma) ritual talks of being made a Mason, but your time to be awarded a 25, 40, or whatever year pin doesn't start until you were raised. Like was stated earlier we do not issue dues cards for EA or FC. You are a Mason but not a member yet.