Warrior1256
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Just a thought....do you think that there will there be celebrations for our 300th birthday?
Define "our." The only thing that happened in 1717 is that the "grand lodge" system was created.Just a thought....do you think that there will there be celebrations for our 300th birthday?
Agreed. I was attempting to circumvent the ubiquitous "Masonry began in 1717" comments.And, to quibble, it is the UGLE anniversary.
Agreed. I was attempting to circumvent the ubiquitous "Masonry began in 1717" comments.
I was attempting to circumvent the ubiquitous "Masonry began in 1717" comments.
Good reasoning.Grand lodge Freemasonry did begin then. Rather like we count the day we were raised as a "Masonic birthday" yet we'd been a brother since we we initiated, Masonry started down a different path at that first meeting.
Very good!Time willshow. May be I'll live in London in 2017. Maybe mypetition will be rejected. I wanna say that I'll be researchin Masonry with pleasure. And when I'll be 'ready', at the age 35/36, I'll submit my petition, I think.
Well what actually happened in 1717 was the beginning of a quantum shift away from a system that was mainly for Operative Masons and accepted the odd non operative member which had nearly died out to a system of Fraternity with heavy philosophical overtones. Had those four London Lodges not taken the action they did it is unlikely that Freemasonry would be around today.Define "our." The only thing that happened in 1717 is that the "grand lodge" system was created.
Just to correct it the the tercentenary (300th Anniversary) of the foundation of the Grand Lodge of London and Westminster, the very first Grand Lodge in the World and later to become the Grand Lodge of England (Premier or Moderns). The UGLE being formed of the joining together of the two Grand Lodges of England marked its formation in 2013 but much more quietly as that was not as important as the first Grand Lodge that was its foundation I do wonder if we will do something in 2056 to mark the Founding of the Antients Grand Lodge.And, to quibble, it is the UGLE anniversary.
Here in the Home Grand Lodges we are a Freemason from the night of our Initiation not our Raising which can be several years later (for me it was 3).Grand lodge Freemasonry did begin then. Rather like we count the day we were raised as a "Masonic birthday" yet we'd been a brother since we we initiated, Masonry started down a different path at that first meeting.
But as an EA or FC you ARE a Mason.I'm a little ticked, because if the jurisdiction where I live let 19 year olds petition, I could be a Master Mason during the 300-anniversary celebrations. Oh well.
Here in the Home Grand Lodges we are a Freemason from the night of our Initiation not our Raising which can be several years later (for me it was 3).
Good info, makes sense.Be that as it may, in my jurisdictions the night of a brother's raising is remembered as his "Masonic birthday" not the night of his initiation. He's a Brother from the moment he is obligated during his initiation but many see the raising as a symbolic rebirth into a new spiritual life. While not a religious event it symbolically mirrors events in a number of religions.
While not a religious event it symbolically mirrors events in a number of religions.
Just like his first glimpse of the "Light" (VSL) in the First Degree.