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  1. Frater Cliff Porter

    Sacred Geometry

    But Leman, Eric Berne, Rhoads and other famous men of the field of psychology do believe that something like 10 percent of the brain is used in conscious thought and that 90 percent is devoted to the subconscious. There are also several symbols in Masonry that have remained potent throughout...
  2. Frater Cliff Porter

    Running Towards Morals & Dogma

    Morals and Dogma does not contain the degrees of the SR at all. It provides a social, spiritual, and political commentary on the lessons of the old degrees without much illusion to the degrees themselves. I read M/D before I was a MM and it was one of the most valuable experiences of my life...
  3. Frater Cliff Porter

    Sacred Geometry

    A little off topic, but I have been to Byblos and what an extraordinary area. Near by is Baalbek and some of the most extraordinary ruins in the world. The temples there that still remain are to Jupiter and to Bacchus. Local legend and some archaeological evidence suggest in Byblos and...
  4. Frater Cliff Porter

    Origins of Masonry?

    Bryan you have decided to read things into statements that have not been made. Can you show me where Gnosticism was provided as a mandatory path? And I am not sure anyone historically knows what the "oldest" Christianity is. If you were going to use written text, then yes, what we would call...
  5. Frater Cliff Porter

    Sacred Geometry

    Godfrey I don't understand your point and the two sense thing was meant to be funny. Are you arguing that geometry has not been considered a moral science? And second is a name that means "God Damn Them" a truly appropriate name for this forum?
  6. Frater Cliff Porter

    Sacred Geometry

    For the Brother that was wondering why I offered Elements for moral study, the idea is not new. First, in order to study the sacred aspects of Geometry, we must study the "number." Second, it was believed by many traditional schools that Elements teaches and conditions the mind towards...
  7. Frater Cliff Porter

    Serial numbers on Guns...

    Well serial numbers were not required until the Gun Control Act of 1968 I believe. You may find this interesting. It is a forum discussion on the same gun I believe http://www.shootersforum.com/handguns/27061-rg-industries-mod-14-22-lr.html
  8. Frater Cliff Porter

    Sacred Geometry

    Just a late two sense. Euclid's Elements is essential to understand this topic. You can't understand the sacred if you don't first understand the Geometry and because in his Elements, Geometry is presented as a moral science it is all the more important. The Pythagorean Source Book would...
  9. Frater Cliff Porter

    Mass Conferring vs. Individual/small groups

    I think it is criminal to rob of a man of the initiatic experience in an initiatic society. Mass and group "classes" prove only that some men just don't get it and won't.
  10. Frater Cliff Porter

    proving my apron

    Congrats. I am sure you will do great Brother.
  11. Frater Cliff Porter

    Origins of Masonry?

    Bryan you seem tense Brother.... :-) I don't think life has a whole lot of yes and no's. Absolutes rarely have value. That being said I don't even know what the "fully a Mason" a Mason is. That sounds a lot like "real Christian" or "real Gnostic". I guess my answer is...I refuse to answer...
  12. Frater Cliff Porter

    Origins of Masonry?

    I am not sure what "Masonic" doctrine is....canonical Masonry :-) Yes, you can find Gnosticism in the teachings of Masonry. Just as you can find Christian, Islamic and Jewish teachings in Masonry. The speculative Masonry of the 17th and 18th century was certainly an organization that...
  13. Frater Cliff Porter

    Origins of Masonry?

    Well this is a can of worms...but I'll talk Christ for minute. It may or may not change for a man what or who Christ is and what Christ means for him and I think all potentials are okay. Faith is a very personal matter. For some faith needs to be unshakable to be pure. Therefore, changing...
  14. Frater Cliff Porter

    Nassim Haremein, sage or fraud?

    For an excellent study of quantum mechanics with a mystical slant that is grounded, scientific, and wonderfully esoteric... Please do yourselves the favor of reading Dr. Casey Blood's work. You will not regret it.
  15. Frater Cliff Porter

    Origins of Masonry?

    I would go so far as to say that what or who or how Christ is...is unique to each individual and this esoteric love of Christ is so personal and ineffable is as unique as those who love him.
  16. Frater Cliff Porter

    Origins of Masonry?

    No, I am claiming that your statement about the so called heresies holding the historical position of less antiquity than literalist Christianity is false. I am providing the oldest known "Christian" writings would be deemed Gnostic by today's standards. I would never stand in a man's way as...
  17. Frater Cliff Porter

    Origins of Masonry?

    The oldest provable Christianity would be what we call Gnostic if we are using Christian writings....the oldest are in fact Gnostic.
  18. Frater Cliff Porter

    Origins of Masonry?

    Several Masonic writers have placed the origin in the Garden of Eden, and designated the fig leaf as the first Masonic apron. One farseeing writer gives his imagination full scope, and 'looks beyond our little earth and declares his belief that Free Masonry existed among the earlier planets...
  19. Frater Cliff Porter

    Can a Jewish Brother Wear a Yamaka in a Lodge Room?

    I have to say regardless of a constitutional rule, I would always allow a man be he Sikh, Druze, Jew, etc. to follow his religious tradition in lodge. Its about freedom of and not freedom from.
  20. Frater Cliff Porter

    Ol' skip is at it again

    You made the right decision in banning him. Send him to his tiny little home to complain that Masons didn't treat like a Mason while he shat on them....
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