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Actually, I don't think I will. Ciao.

Athelstane 839, your profile says you are not a mason. I can't imagine what "New York" body you are referring to, that has "many grand line officers" "planing" to allow co-masonry there.

Robinson offered next to nothing in support of that stuff. Somebody somewhere told him something about how heretics dressed...only snobs use footnotes.

The GLoT definitely has printed proceedings going that far back...each year bound as a single book. As best I recall, they are right on the shelves of the GL library in Waco. In Houston, I suppose it's possible that a lodge like Holland No. 1 would have those books, although I have no reason...

Presumably that could verified by consulting the proceedings of the GLoT. The collection in Waco goes back that far. Someone here might know if the collection in Dallas or Houston goes back that far. They're open to public scrutiny. Frankly, that doesn't sound at all unlike the tone that was...

I've said this before, but I think it bears repeating. There are several important parts of our ceremonies that have become "optional" which, in my estimation, deserve more attention than ceremonies that have never been part of our work. I would be willing to bet that most of the brethren...

I have heard there is a principle that the younger body makes a request to the older body to change the status of their relationship. I am sure I could not produce any documentation to support that, but I am certain it has been said somewhere. I would point out that the GLoT had agreed to a...

Page 7...what's the "Narzidini ritual"?

1st: That would be valid if you were a member of a UGLE lodge 2nd: The MWGLoT does not allow masons from the UGLE to visit their lodges. 3rd: There's a very helpful book put out by Pantograph press that lists all the details of who recognizes who. There's a copy in every mainstream lodge in...

Reading the latest version of "The Texas Prince Hall Freemason" available online, I find an article about the Texas Prince Hall University, which mentions a "Narzidini Ritual." Can somebody tell me what that's about? Is it okay to discuss online?

Add to that that even if there was no Grand Lodge of Texas, a Mason from another Grand Lodge could not legally visit a lodge of the PH Grand Lodge of Texas unless their Grand Lodge was "in amity" with the MWPHGLOT.

Umm. As far as I can tell, you're a California and Illinois Mason sitting in lodges your Grand Lodges do not approve of visiting. It sounds like the individual lodges might be violating their own laws in that case as well, but I have less insight into that. If I was in a parallel situation, I...

Unless you are also a member of a PHA lodge somewhere, I can't see how your reasoning works... Perhaps one of our PH brothers can offer an opinion here.

http://www.glofga.org/lodgedb.html

...because I have never heard that the MWPHGLoT recognizes the "mainstream" grand lodges of California or Illinois. Or vice-versa.

I'm not sure I understand. Do you mean to say that you have visited lodges of the MWPHGL of Texas?

There's a rule to cover that eventuality. In the case of consolidation, your endowed membership goes to the surviving lodge, unless you ask the Grand Secretary to transfer it to another lodge of which you are a member within 12 months. If your lodge demises, you can instruct the Grand...

I hope I didn't say anything to suggest that there was any need to defend it, but I can't see why anyone shouldn't be happy to explain it. I'm interested in understanding the practices of the PH Grand Lodge, since we mutually recognize each other. Was my question inappropriate? Tom Ball PM...

I've been reading here some discussions of the MWPHGLoT "healing" men who were initiated in bogus lodges. It's a bit foreign to me, because in the GLoT we don't have any such procedure...a member of a clandestine lodge can only join us by quitting the clandestine body and starting over in one...

Let me describe what my lodge does, without going into anything esoteric. A man is told to present himself at a particular time. When he arrives, he finds only the Master of Ceremonies waiting for him, who escorts him into a small chamber, perhaps ten feet square, furnished only with a chair...