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Discussion in 'General Freemasonry Discussion' started by ¤Jerr, Mar 22, 2015.

  1. ¤Jerr

    ¤Jerr Registered User

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    I'm considering to become a mason, im 19 and have take pride in helping people when my abilities allow me, although I may turn away more than I should, I want to know the vendors of joining the brotherhood, I am not religious neither am I strongly educated, I wear a ring because I believe my faith to be at one with the brotherhood. Meaning I do believe in 1 grand creator and I look to myself to find the answers I need to improve daily,
    I do worry about the judgment people at give me if I consider this option openly and have no one to ask for true advice
     
  2. JamestheJust

    JamestheJust Registered User

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    Hi Jerr

    Welcome to the forum. Would you like to say in which area you are living? That would give some context for answering you
     
  3. ¤Jerr

    ¤Jerr Registered User

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    hello, and thanks. West London region of england,
     
  4. Ripcord22A

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    Do u mean you wear a Masonic ring?
     
  5. ¤Jerr

    ¤Jerr Registered User

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    Yeah..
     
  6. Ripcord22A

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    And your not yet a mason? Ive heard people make the argument that, "well people.wear spirts jerserys and no one.mistakes them for pro athletes"...and that's true but let a young man wear a high school jersery and everyone will think he goes to and plays for that school. What i am saying is you havent earend the "RITE" to wear that ring. Its not like wearing the hoodie of ur favorite college hoping you get accepted. Please respect our craft and take it off until you have been raised
     
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  7. Ripcord22A

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    Also you say you are from England but your English is a little off where are you from originally?
     
  8. ¤Jerr

    ¤Jerr Registered User

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    @jdmadse nxraterlake211
    I disagree with ur comment although I respect the craft, I also respect the morals and the methods, being RESPECTFUL and helpful to anyone in need, mason or not, so I will carry the meaning with me . Also as I previously stated, I am not educated. Ur judgement shows a lack of respect, any advice ur offering me I would kindly further decline and will mistake u for stuborn. You should be welcoming of my generation showing your guild an intrest, not trying to push us away. That's just rude and closed minded,
     
  9. ¤Jerr

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    Ur response shows ur more interested in being a slave to symbolism rather than helping others
     
  10. Ripcord22A

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    Your generation? Im only30 bud. I was just asking where your originally from.

    It its my duty as a Master Mason to keep a watchful eye for cowans and evesdropers so i just wanted to make sure you are genuine.

    And as far as my example if you showed up at a lodge seeking a petition i can almost guarantee they would admonish you for wearing that which you haven't earned. Also I thought the English didn't wear rings and it was a mainly American thing?
     
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  11. ¤Jerr

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    My generation, yes, that's an 11 year diffrence..
    Iv said where im from, ur ignorence is bliss. So is ur judgment who my personal life.

    Its ur duty to make new people surely feel welcome, not try n find reasons to push is away? I would like to question how genuine you are as your only concern has been about a band around my finger and not the motive Wichita u seemed to of ignored ,

    Why would my country define how I would show faith and belief for what I believe true ?
    And I believe if a mason was to see me wearing a ring they would probably hold concern for my interstate..
     
  12. dfreybur

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    Ah the exuberance of youth when only a couple of centuries seemed like a long time. ;^)

    Different regions of the world have different methods to approach a lodge. Were I to tell you how to approach a lodge in the US it would be of no help to you.

    Believe as you wish. You wear a symbol of rank not earned and write about respect? When you do approach a lodge according to the method of your local jurisdiction I recommend not wearing a symbol that says you have already experienced the degrees and done the work required between your degrees.

    http://www.ugle.org.uk/becoming-a-mason
     
  13. pointwithinacircle2

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    Please do not with feel that it is your responsibility to tell me my duty. It is never necessary for me to find reasons to push prospective Masons away. It is however necessary for prospective Masons to prove that they are worthy and well qualified.
     
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  14. Warrior1256

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    Exactly!
     
  15. caution22113

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    Being a "slave to symbolism" has nothing to do with a Mason taking offense to you wearing emblems you have neither earned the right to wear, nor understand the meanings of the symbols you display. Your statement "a slave to symbolism" is confusing to me. What do you think Masonry is?

    As far as your ring goes, legally, you can wear whatever you spend your money on. Morally, why would you display something you do not understand. Masonry is not something that you can learn from reading a book or watching others. Masonry has to be experienced.
     
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  16. ¤Jerr

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    And as iv stated already this is to MY understanding. And don't lie in ur response .

    The square, which symbolizes a state of moral rectitude. (a change I am undergoing)

    "The compasses symbolize an implement of virtue by which we
    are taught to circumscribe (create a boundary around) our passions
    and keep our desires within due bounds."
    This meaning I read, pretty self explanitory.. keep to boundaries in what u do, don't cross a line to disrespect another

    But to wear the logo as a whole is to represent Freemasonry as a whole.. so I know im within my personal jurisdiction , as if I say a man, woman child, mason or not, in trouble, I would do my best to help.
    In all honesty, how many of you would do the same. No one has treated me with any respect yet. And this is the internet.
     
  17. caution22113

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    You sir, are a Cowan, and I shall have no further involvement in this thread. Good luck, and God bless.
     
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  18. pointwithinacircle2

    pointwithinacircle2 Rapscallion Premium Member

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    I do not understand why you wish to join an organization where you will be unhappy. The Brothers here have offered you the truth and you have responded by calling them disrespectful and suggesting that they are liars.

    Cube
     
  19. phulseapple

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    Hello Jerr - Welcome to the boards. It is always great having new and young members. I, for one, hope you will post more questions.

    As for your current inquiry, at this point in time, you have not gone through the three degrees of Craft Masonry and are therefore not technically entitled to wear a Masonic ring. Continuing to do so is considered disrespectful to those of us who have done the work associated with those degrees. Since you indicate that you respect the craft, I am sure you can see the contradiction to your actions. Whatever you may have read is not a substitute for the actual experience of working through the degrees. Masonry is NOT something you can simply get by reading it in a book and applying your understanding to it. While I am sure you have the qualifications to petition for membership, your responses here in this particular thread lead me to question whether or not your intentions are sincere. Your responses also exhibit an air of immaturity. All of us, regardless of our current stage in life, had at one point a similar level of immaturity. If you are indeed sincere in your intentions, I urge you to reflect on how, as well as what, you have presented here. One of the most difficult things in Masonry is taking an HONEST look inward and correcting your own weaknesses.
     
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  20. ¤Jerr

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    As iv stated my reason for wanting to join. I believe that this world needs more people to connect in a more helpful manor and to meet people I would of thaught to have righteous mortals , I have come here to seek advice of the benefits of joining the brotherhood, not for people to pick and choose what part of my query they are going to reply to, surely my personal decisions do not interstellar you, but im offering an expirienced member of the brotherhood to share some light on what I could be in for and the choice I should make, if its full of inconsiderate judgmental, and ignorent beings such as urselves I will pass,
    If it is an oppertinuty to offer and recieve guidence, with other people who are grown up (in mentality, not just with age) and live life respecting 1 another and willing to pass down the lessons they have learnt in life, how to be healthy and happy rather than just greedy and wealthy like religions these days.. sign me up, here's ur opertunity to convince a younger generation this is a good, and meaningful way of life. Thanku
     

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