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MRichard

MRichard

Mark A. Ri'chard
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Travelling Man91 said:
This is a public blog. Your free to comment as you please. I just didn't won't to see this tread turn into something racial
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If I was free to comment as I please, then this wouldn't be an issue. I am not sure why it would turn into something racial.
 
Brother_Steve

Brother_Steve

Premium Member
Travelling Man91 said:
Yes but you said especially in the black groups, so that's why I stated what I stated. It doesn't matter, I've seen people of multiple races say try it
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The brother's line of thought was concerning a split within PHA a long time ago. It was not 'racially' motivated. At least, this is how I read into his original reply as shown below.

PHA:
decedents of the African Lodge and are legitimate masons.

PHO:
PHO is also referred to as "National Compact." Quite some time ago (mid 1800's IIRC,) some Prince Hall Lodges decided to have a national Grand Lodge. They apparently thought all Prince Hall Lodges would go along, but they didn't. So, it caused a schism. PHO has a national Grand Lodge (http://www.mwnationalgrandlodge.org/), PHA is organized with state Grand Lodges only. When "mainstream" state Grand Lodges started recognizing Prince Hall, they started recognizing PHA. I also think there a lot more PHA Lodges and brothers than PHO.

From: http://www.myfreemasonry.com/threads/pho-vs-pha.18791/#post-102255
 
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MRichard

MRichard

Mark A. Ri'chard
Premium Member
Brother_Steve said:
The brother's line of thought was concerning a split within PHA a long time ago. It was not 'racially' motivated. At least, this is how I read into his original reply as shown below.

PHA:
decedents of the African Lodge and are legitimate masons.

PHO:
PHO is also referred to as "National Compact." Quite some time ago (mid 1800's IIRC,) some Prince Hall Lodges decided to have a national Grand Lodge. They apparently thought all Prince Hall Lodges would go along, but they didn't. So, it caused a schism. PHO has a national Grand Lodge (http://www.mwnationalgrandlodge.org/), PHA is organized with state Grand Lodges only. When "mainstream" state Grand Lodges started recognizing Prince Hall, they started recognizing PHA. I also think there a lot more PHA Lodges and brothers than PHO.

From: http://www.myfreemasonry.com/threads/pho-vs-pha.18791/#post-102255
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It is much bigger than that. There is a whole website dedicated to identifying bogus grand lodges. http://www.thephylaxis.org/bogus/bogusgrandlodges.php

The about us page describes exactly what I was referring to. http://www.thephylaxis.org/bogus/history.php
 
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2B1

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Travelling Man91 said:
When I first became a Freemason, I had heard of guys trying to pass themselves off as being a mason. For the longest time I thought it was just rumors, especially in today's time, but I'm noticing more and more men are identifying themselves as masons. I've met some that give certain phrases, and try to imitate the grips. It's sad and unfortunate that a man would rather play freemasonry, than join and become a true brother. I encourage all brothers to remember their obligation and be very careful of your choice of words when in the presence of non masons. Ex : Found out a guy I work with was supposedly an entered apprientce for (6 years). I later learned that He was bragging about being a mason. Multiple guys at the branch said that he was going around shaking guys hands and saying this is the masons grip. When he found out I was one he tried doing the same thing to me. I asked him one question that any worthy brothers would know no matter the degree and he couldn't answer it. This is a prime example of why masons should not reveal anything just off of hear say.
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Is it at all possible that someone that has been an "Entered Apprentice?" for 6 years could actually believe that they are believable? I find that disturbing. People find a ring somewhere and put it on, and "ta-da"...they're Masons. It jay goes to show that we all want to be associated with something bigger than ourselves. It somehow makes us feel more important to the world.
 
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