Examining a Brother

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  1. ragged tiger

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    I visited a lodge in Augusta, Georgia and was required to show a current dues card and recite the Tyler's Oath. Being F. & A.M. their version of the oath was slightly different, but they had no problem accepting the version I put forth. The Tyler's Oath is really something all traveling brothers should know.
     
  2. scottmh59

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    Tom and I visited a lodge in Arlington,and had to give the tylers oath,grip and word of a MM.
     
  3. david918

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    The first lodge I visited after I was raised was in San Antonio and I had to give the grip and word for all three degrees as well as the tilers oath.I have visited over 80 lodges since in 2 countries and numerous states and that was by far the most thorough exam I ever went thru.Almost scared me off
     
  4. JBD

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    One lodge in AR was MM token
    One Lodge in AL was oath, all grips and words

    Texas is (for TX Masons) Dues Card and DL AND permission of WM
     
  5. Bill Lins

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    The dues card only tells you that the Brother was OK when it was issued. The oath makes him state that he has not been suspended or expelled, nor is he laboring under charges, any of which would be reason enough to exclude him.
     
  6. Bill Lins

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    I'm not sure how "emphatic" he might have been, but he DID follow correct procedure if he had not sat in Lodge with y'all before.
     
  7. Bill Lins

    Bill Lins Moderating Staff Staff Member

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    I have no problem with being examined as long as the SD isn't wearing surgical gloves. :48:
     
  8. RedTemplar

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    One thing I have found is when you see you are about to be asked a lot of questions, it can be hushed rather quickly when you exercise your right as a visiting Master Mason to to try the lodge. Brothers tend to change the subject very quickly when you ask to see the lodge's charter, book of constitution, and etc.
     
  9. Wingnut

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    I do believe the way I read the law permission is NOT needed of the WM, in fact he can not refuse entry. This is also the way it was presented by PGM Elmer Murphy when the issue came up for an unrelated reason.
     
  10. JBD

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    Art. 380. (416). Good Standing. Upon notification to the
    Worshipful Master, and at his discretion
    , a member of a Lodge
    under the jurisdiction of this Grand Lodge may visit any Texas
    Masonic Lodge working under this jurisdiction without the
    avouchment and or examination process providing that he is in
    good standing and presents a receipt from his Lodge showing
    that his dues are current at the time of said visitation along
    with a photo identification; except in cases provided for in Art.
    382.
     
  11. TCShelton

    TCShelton Founding Member Premium Member

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    +1 to having heard that from GL.
     
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  12. Wingnut

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    PM sent
     
  13. JBD

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    Whur??? It appears to be cyrber MIA
     
  14. Griffin

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    The last 2 lodges I visited, Mill Valley in California and Arlington Heights here in Fort Worth, both required a dues card and DL, and both asked for the Tiler's Oath, which I gave. Nobody asked for signs, grips or words, though at Arlington Heights I was asked if I knew them. Of all those ritual means of recognition, I think at least the signs should be demonstrated because I have seen brothers do some of the strangest things during the opening and closing of lodge. Sometimes it's more confusing than watching the batting coach of minor league baseball team! :blink:
     
  15. Gerald.Harris

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    Article 223- Necessary Paraphernalia for Lodges in Texas ( item 17) Requires that each Texas Lodge have a small Bible for an Examining Committie. Other then that I am not aware of any other guide lines for determining if a brother is worthy to come inside or not. In years past, I have seen G&Ws and Tilers Oath being the most often utilized examination. I think we must all keep in mind that the only way a brother can ( legally) vouch for another is if he has set in a tiled Lodge with him, or if he was on his examining committie. The proper time to vouch for someone is during the opening ceremonies. I don't believe that any lodge has ever attempted to keep me out, but rather worked to get me inside the lodge room. Each Master of a Lodge when installed is charged with not allowing any unknown brother into his lodge room without proper examination .
     
  16. MGM357

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    Often tried, neve denied and willing to be tried again.
     
  17. Bill Lins

    Bill Lins Moderating Staff Staff Member

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    OK, guys- that's not what it means. Allowing entry based on a dues card & photo ID in lieu of an examination is what is left up to the WM's discretion.
     
  18. Gerald.Harris

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    Because that is not all that is required, in fact a dues card isn't even required anywhere in the Constitution except under article 380:which says:

    Upon notification to the Worshipful Master, and at his discretion, a member of a Lodge under the jourisdiction of this Grand Lodge may visit any Texas Masonic Lodge working under this jourisdiction without the avouchment and or examination proces providing that he is in good standing and presents a receipt from his Lodge showing that his dues are current at the time of said visitation along with a photo identification;except in cases provided for in Art.382. Sojourning Masons from other jourisdictions must possess a current dues card and shall be vouched for or examined in accordance with Art.381.
     
  19. kcir

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    At the very least, you should be asked for your dues card and the members of the examining committee should show theirs. You should then be offered the opportunity to look in the book of lodges and see that he lodge you are visiting is recognized by the Grand Lodge.
     
  20. webstermason

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    I've told older visiting brothers that they must arm wrestle me for entry.
     
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