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We have the same in Kentucky.In Tennessee, we have the Virtual Past Master degree conferred in the Chapter.
We have the same in Kentucky.In Tennessee, we have the Virtual Past Master degree conferred in the Chapter.
Interesting, you are a PM here as soon as your successor is Installed and not while Installed as Worshipful Master - during that time you are a Worshipful Master, once your successor is Installed, then you become a Worshipful Past Master (generally shortened to Past Master unless in lodge)....Another fun fact for NJ. You are a Past Master the moment your butt hits the chair during your installation.
Again, same here in Kentucky. The moment you are installed you are eligible to join the Past Master Society of Kentucky.Another fun fact for NJ. You are a Past Master the moment your butt hits the chair during your installation.
Most of our officer installations are in December. Our Past Masters Association has its first meeting of the year, and that's when most people join it. But to officially earn recognition as a Past Master, you have to preside over a lodge for six months. Nobody really calls as sitting WM "past" until their year ends, but after six months you are one officially and become a voting member of the Grand Lodge.
Here it is in ascending order.Next question is: what order do you introduce?
Here each lodge has only one vote which is cast by it's representative, usually the sitting WM.Each Lodge effectively have 4 potential votes in Grand Lodge
Here Past Masters have one collective vote.Other PMs have an individual vote if they attend the GL Communications.
Interesting. In PA, sitting WMs and Wardens have a vote at Grand Lodge, in addition to PMs. Each Lodge effectively have 4 potential votes in Grand Lodge, the WM, SW, JW and Official representative to GL. In our Lodge the Official Representative to GL is traditionally the immediate Past Master, but other lodges use a different means to nominate theirs. Other PMs have an individual vote if they attend the GL Communications.
Here, WMs and Wardens have the lodge votes, but all PMs are permanent voting members of the GL.
Honestly, in my opinion, I wished we didn't. Many of our problems trying to move forward come from voting PMs. I'd really like it if it were one lodge, one vote with delegates voting the will of the lodge.
We've gotten into arguments before over that very issue. Come GL time we've had people try to make motions that everyone vote for or against a proposal. I've refused because my vote is mine, and if that conflicts with the membership, so be it. I'm going to vote my conscience. The lodge reps need to vote how the lodge wants, but PMs' votes are their personal votes.
In the California system each lodge has 4 votes. WM, SW, JW. Plus all of the PMs assembled get a vote on topics they can agree upon. Some lodges achieve this agreement by assigning that vote to a specific PM but there are no jurisdiction wide rules for how to conduct that vote. To me it's a good mellowing compromise without an influence that lasts a very long time.
Here the permanent members of the Grand Lodge are:all PMs are permanent voting members of the GL.
Here Past Masters have one collective vote.all PMs are permanent voting members of the GL.
I had not heard this before. Learned something new.At least one of my jurisdiction defines "past" as a previous elected officer and "former" as a previous appointed officer for this reason.
Interesting. In PA, sitting WMs and Wardens have a vote at Grand Lodge, in addition to PMs. Each Lodge effectively have 4 potential votes in Grand Lodge, the WM, SW, JW and Official representative to GL. In our Lodge the Official Representative to GL is traditionally the immediate Past Master, but other lodges use a different means to nominate theirs. Other PMs have an individual vote if they attend the GL Communications.