Religion

Discussion in 'General Freemasonry Discussion' started by Illuminated, Jul 26, 2013.

  1. dhouseholder

    dhouseholder Registered User

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    There are plenty of different Orders that label themselves "Theistic Satanists" and I think that the overwhelming number of them would not be comfortable with our teachings. Although, I could see some of these paradigms stretching various definitions and interpretations to justify joining the Fraternity.

    That being said, I know that they would have a HELL of a time (pun intended) gathering enough signatures to join if they openly mentioned their religious persuasion. At that point, I would take that person aside, subtly let them know that this was probably not the type of thing they were looking for, and point them to some other organizations that would better suit their beliefs.
     
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  2. BryanMaloney

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    First, there is no such thing as a 4th degree mason. None at all. They do not exist.

    If it's by Pike, you might mean his "Morals and Dogma", which is used by SOME members of the Scottish Rite, which is not Freemasonry, it is an appendant body of Freemasonry (a side-group, not able to form core doctrines).

    And you have READ "Morals and Dogma" before making your opinion? Or are you just ignorantly parroting what someone else told you?

    Likewise, Pike and his book are not statements of Masonic doctrine. They are statements of his opinions, but they do not have authority. Pike is pretty much unknown to most Freemasons, worldwide. He has only been known to American Masons. It doesn't matter if PART of the Scottish Rite USED TO hand out his book. This page lays out the Pike issue quite well: http://www.masonicinfo.com/pike.htm

    Likewise, presuming that you're under the influence of Evangelical Christianity, please cite the portions of Scripture that state something to the effect that "Lucifer is Satan". Note that "Lucifer" was also used by some writers to refer to Christ. Indeed, Christ is referred to as "Morning Star" or "Day Star" (in Latin, "Lucifer") in 2 Peter 1. Christ calls Himself "Morning Star" in Revelations 22:16. However, for whatever reason, it was only translated as "Lucifer" once, even though the Latin "Lucifer" could just as easily be used for the New Testament statements that call Christ "Morning Star" or "Day Star". So, where is the part of the Bible that says "Morning Star means Satan"?
     
  3. Silje-Madeleine

    Silje-Madeleine Registered User

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    I thought we were suppose to make eachother better my friends :) and being rude to someone because in your eyes they are wrong is the exact opposite of improving to be better :) Remember there are no stupid questions;) ▲:thumbup:

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  4. newkid18

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    I live within the GLoT. Sat ism as a religion us not a mason friendly one. Because it tells you to gain only for yourself. And yes brother I was talking about the Satan from the holy bible I was in a dark point in my life but I am passed that. And now I am only trying to go east with light

    If a man empties his purse into his head, no man can take it away from him. An investment in knowledge always pays the best interest." —Benjamin Franklin, American writer, humorist, ambassador, inventor and Freemason
     
  5. elijah925

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    Im new and very interested in learning, studying and becoming a Free Mason. I really like your opinion on The Masons. Please point me out to the most vital Books on Free Masons

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  7. LittleHunter

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    "Spirit of Masonry" by William Hutchinson was lent to me by my Lodge's secretary when I petitioned. It's not easy reading, the book is 300 years old but it's amazing.

    If you're interested in the more mystical side, "Lost Keys Of Freemasonry" by Manly P. Hall is good.

    "Born in Blood" is very popular with the guys at my Lodge.


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  8. brother josh

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    NO book can equal the affect of taking the degrees of freemasonry


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  9. Jericho2013

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    When did you petition the lodge? Your profile says you are not a mason so I was just wondering. Reading ahead of getting your degrees is not the best thing to do. That's just my opinion.
     
  10. LittleHunter

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    I haven't filled out my profile on this site yet.

    I petitioned in July 2012. Initiated in October, passed in April 2013, raised this May. Lantana #372, FL. I can post a pic of my dues card, if you like.

    I agree with you about "reading ahead." I've only read what was recommended to me by the elders in my Lodge, the same recommendations that I have shared here.




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