Rosicrucian?

Discussion in 'Philosophy, Religion and Spirituality' started by rhitland, Jun 24, 2009.

  1. Griffin

    Griffin Brother of the R+C Premium Member

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    Regarding the SRICF (Societas Rosicruciana in Civitatibus Foederatus)

    My understanding is that a few colleges of the SRICF have long been Rosicrucian in name and symbolism only. By that I mean they apparently have little interest or effort given to the aims stated above. Not being a member, I can't make any claims about the concerns of the Texas College, but would invite anyone with firsthand knowledge to speak on this point.

    In any case, as it has been noted, this body is by invitation only and so I would encourage Masons interested in Rosicrucianism to not wait for membership in the SRICF before seeking more light within this beautiful tradition.
     
  2. Griffin

    Griffin Brother of the R+C Premium Member

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  3. Jamesb

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    Be careful though brothers: If you ever had the thought of being "invited to join" the Masonic Rosicrucians (at least here in Texas) do NOT join the Rosicrucians. They have seperated themselves and if you are a member of one you cannot be a member of the other. I asked about it, and was told by a member of the Texas College.
     
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  4. dhouseholder

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    Why can you not be a Mason and a RC? Who separated from who?
     
  5. Jamesb

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    I was informed that you cannot be a Masonic Rosicrucian and a AMORC

    You can be a Mason and a Rosicrucian but not a member of the Masonic Rosicrucians
     
  6. Jay

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    Brother Rhitland please P.M. me, I have a old book I would be pleased to lone you.
     
  7. Frater Cliff Porter

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    Just a note on the reference to Benjamin Franklin. He was a "joiner" and appears to have found much enjoying the different mystical traditions, especially those that would "revolutionize" the Enlightenment. It is known that he was associated with the degrés écossais, which, I believe it was stated, would later lend some of their material to the Scottish Rite's degrees.

    Martinism in the manner and form it exist today had not truly been "born" although the man who would espouse its ideas had. Louis Claud de St. Martin was influenced a bit by degrés écossais himself, especially that of Order des Elus-Cohens, where he would be exposed to the ritualized progress of initiatic tradition, although, it is fair to say his emphasis was on meditation and Papus or Gerard Encausse would lend more to the form and structure of the Martinism we recognize today.

    Last, Martinism, from what I can gather, is much different than the Masonry we have come to know, in that, it treats itself much like a secret society. Its members names are not written, they wear items to conceal their identity even from one another, etc. and what is known of their inner doctrine is still limited to the outside world even in this world of brochure initiation. The one so called Martinist order that sold on-line initiations and the like is not recognized by any legitimate Martist order in the world.

    So, just for playing devil's advocate.....if Franklin was a Martinist, he likely would have told no one, there would be no written record of it, and it is likely only those who shared the way with him would know it.
     
  8. dhouseholder

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    Specifically why not? Who told you that?
     
  9. Payne

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    I find them interesting...
     
  10. Jamesb

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    I asked the Top Dog of the Rosicrucians here in Houston, about "What is a Masonic Rosicrucian?"( he is in the Scottish Rite here) {I am sorry but I cannot remember his name} and after he told me that it was an invitation only organization that "You will not be ask to join if you are an AMORC" I ask him why and he stated that the we are seperate organizations and to allow them to intermingle would disrupt the intent of one or both. He did not elaborate.
     
  11. Frater Cliff Porter

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    In Colorado if you are AMORC you would not be invited. So it is the same here. We specifically ask if you are a member of any other Rosicrucian Order.
     
  12. JEbeling

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    I may be slow... ! but I read thru these post and I don't have a clue what they are talking about...? the first thing that came to mind is WHO are these people and WHAT are they trying to do...? when ask to join are they part of masonary..? this just seem strange to me...? not sure I want any part of people who are not above board... in the open ... and clear about their agenda...?
     
  13. Ecossais

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    In the words of Alvy Singer, after being asked if he was a Rosicrucian, "No. I could never join a religion that advertises in Mechanics Illustrated."
     
  14. BryanMaloney

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    I would be very interested in seeing the documentation that proves Ben Franklin was not a Martian.
     
  15. Traveling Man

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    I see we are still trying to prove a negative, good luck with that...:12:
     
  16. promason

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    I think Rosicrucian are related to Templars spirituality and may be a templar spiritual way,I will check the site
     

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