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Zack

Registered User
It's absolutely relevant. Everyone wants to wine and cry but yet I am 1000%positive not one single person gets off the couch at home when watching the game and stands and places there hand on their heart......look I think these guys are dumb and as Jason Whitlock of Fox Sports said "these guys are out ahead of their skis" us getting all wrapped around the axel and not watching the game any more is silly. I love watching football and regardless of what "some" of the players do I'll keep watching it......

T o each his own. That's part of what America is all about.
 

LK600

Premium Member
You want disrespect? Look in the stands. There are far more people playing grabass up there than there are protesters on the field. And those are the same people whining the loudest.
I want multi-millionaires who are on the employers clock where their perceived 1st amendment rights don't take precedence to do what they are being paid for. nothing less and nothing more.
 

LK600

Premium Member
It's absolutely relevant. Everyone wants to wine and cry but yet I am 1000%positive not one single person gets off the couch at home when watching the game and stands and places there hand on their heart......look I think these guys are dumb and as Jason Whitlock of Fox Sports said "these guys are out ahead of their skis" us getting all wrapped around the axel and not watching the game any more is silly. I love watching football and regardless of what "some" of the players do I'll keep watching it......
It's absolutely not relevant in any form. Someone in the stands is not on the clock and (for the vast majority) there on their own dime using their own time. The program of the game is not about them nor are they the focal point of the agenda, nor are they being compensated for their time. For better or worse, the players are paid exceptionally well to do one thing... play the damn game. You choose to go on television to represent other people or another product (the team), you choose to set aside your personal beliefs and the actions you might want to take in reference to them. None of this is disputable.

The players can not choose to act upon their personal beliefs while playing representing the team unless the team circumvents their own rules to allow it. So be it... the teams have that choice... so do we.
 
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Ripcord22A

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It's absolutely not relevant in any form. Someone in the stands is not on the clock and (for the vast majority) there on their own dime using their own time. The program of the game is not about them nor are they the focal point of the agenda, nor are they being compensated for their time. For better or worse, the players are paid exceptionally well to do one thing... play the damn game. You choose to go on television to represent other people or another product (the team), you choose to set aside your personal beliefs and the actions you might want to take in reference to them. None of this is disputable.

The players can not choose to act upon their personal beliefs while playing representing the team unless the team circumvents their own rules to allow it. So be it... the teams have that choice... so do we.

But is it any less disrespectful?
 

LK600

Premium Member
But is it any less disrespectful?
Not in the slightest, though I'd say the players doing it in this venue using this style is very much targeted while all the other slobs(myself included) is without intention. My issue is that I'm tuning in for the promised and billed activity of football. Much like Masonry, my football and politics don't mix, especially when those politics are perceived (by me at least) as a in your face insult to our country and our vets.

I have zero issue with people continuing to watch football. It's a choice, and a personal one at that. I will continue to watch football as well... it just won't be the NFL. The NFL is a joke... and it's sad when there's an arrest of an NFL player every 7 days on average. I deserve better lol.
 

Brother JC

Moderating Staff
Staff Member
I still don’t get the “insults the vets” line. My oath was to defend the Constitution. They are using a Constitutional right. If they are doing it on their employer’s dime that’s between them and their employer.
I gave up my First Amendment rights when I joined the service.
 

GJB

Registered User
I still don’t get the “insults the vets” line. My oath was to defend the Constitution. They are using a Constitutional right. If they are doing it on their employer’s dime that’s between them and their employer.
I gave up my First Amendment rights when I joined the service.
Let's just agree to disagree. They have the constitutional right to say what they want, its between them and their employer. We also have the right to boycott their employer's product and go to other venues for our entertainment because we are fed up with their antics. Problem solved.

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Brother JC

Moderating Staff
Staff Member
Let's just agree to disagree. They have the constitutional right to say what they want, its between them and their employer. We also have the right to boycott their employer's product and go to other venues for our entertainment because we are fed up with their antics. Problem solved.
No disagreement there.
 

LK600

Premium Member
They are using a Constitutional right. If they are doing it on their employer’s dime that’s between them and their employer.
They are definitely using their constitutional right... which they do not have a constitutional right to use in their current setting. They are also key players in selling a product to the American people. At this point to many of us, the product has been soiled. It's that simple. They have zero right to do what they did, but they do have the ability thanks to their employer(s). It never was a question of constitutional rights, because they do not apply in this setting. It's about a product and the perception of the buyers.
 

Brother JC

Moderating Staff
Staff Member
Not sure I agree that they can’t use their rights in that setting unless their contracts specify such. If so, it’s still a problem for their employers. Maybe protesters should have to stay in the locker room...
As for giving up on the NFL, I did that when they absorbed the AFL.
 

LK600

Premium Member
Not sure I agree that they can’t use their rights in that setting unless their contracts specify such. If so, it’s still a problem for their employers. Maybe protesters should have to stay in the locker room...
As for giving up on the NFL, I did that when they absorbed the AFL.
By the very nature that their contracts can dictate whether they can use a constitutional right indicates that they do not have the right in that setting... only whats permitted. For me personally, I actually see it as a bonus to me since now I can actually finish some of the 87 projects around my property that my wife has lined up for me lol.

wow... I haven't thought about the AFL in a very looong time. I use to have an AFL Mug when I was a kid. It sat right next to my Great Muppet Caper glasses from.... can't remember that fast food place having that special lol.
 

Phil P

Registered User
How 'bout dem Texans and that 43pt BEATDOWN they laid on the Titans. And as an added bonus, the Cowboys lost to the Rams............lol
 

Phil P

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