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Thanks. I have never been in any lodge (in over 30 jurisdictions) in which alcohol was allowed in the temple/the lodge room except for ceremonial purposes. This old navy guy also calls the chow hall “the mess.” I suppose we could say “the dining hall“ and be all fancy.

I have never seen the Chaplain sit in the North. In some English lodges you will see the Secretary and Treasurer there. Could I clarify: in what room were you when you had your beverage of choice?

In England In England I only recollect them in the SW.

I am unaware of any. Some GLs do have Honorary PGMs.

You stated : “The legend dates back to the 1700's which is well before 1872.” Where in literature do you find this legend occurring in the 1700’s?

If I were to look at mug shots and pick out the pro se defendant, it would take me an about a nano second to say, “Him.” Pro se defendants are actually difficult for everyone in the system. Extra care must be taken to ensure they are aware of their choice in proceeding without counsel; extra...

Citation to the legend existing in the 1700’s?

If there is such an 18th C legend and it was t made up later , it was not a legend in Utah.

Utah places the apron on the coffin. We were established in 1872, so the legend wouldn’t fit.

Please do post your source when you come across it.

I am not a French speaker, but would it not be “je le veux”? The French jube’ means rood or screen.

Do you believe he will wear it in eternity?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-66738674?fbclid=IwAR09wgd2QCRGtgAD9DfKRvRB2B4VN8dbx0wjEkDS4ynoQUjnUAtWnU-B-Aw_aem_AVddEWIdBeP4hlw57btiMH1BDer95jjgdNGmj92xdMDyv3vAUzaIedKcEXDuttid0rA

What if I say “Pretty please”?

Well, I did so as well and cited the statute "No one can prohibit you from doing as you wish. However, as a member of the Southern Jurisdiction, upon the death of the owner, the ring should go into the hands of his widow, eldest son, the friend who was loved above all others, or another Scottish...

So, you alrea So, you already knew the answer?

Sorry, we take a vow stating what? and what is it you wish to ask deceased Princes?

Your grand lodge doesn’t have many that have been turned in by families?

No one can prohibit you from doing as you wish. However, as a member of the Southern Jurisdiction, upon the death of the owner, the ring should go into the hands of his widow, eldest son, the friend who was loved above all others, or another Scottish Rite Mason.

Only if your grand lodge is in amity with Prince Hall California and Oregon. The PHA GLs are sovereign grand lodges, just like State GLs.