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one of the many reasons I enjoy being a shriner http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djHMu4WysRc&feature=relmfu

interesting....... I wonder if Masons from England (where Masonry started) feel the same way about Masons from the U.S. & other countries ... How its been changed, diluted or modified from the way it started in England... Maybe they too feel its a mockery. Just wondering....

No problem Bro. Michael. I can understand your frustration sometimes on not getting an answer when all your doing is asking what the Shrine is all about. Guess it kinda brings back memories for me when I was wanting to find out about the Masons because at I first I thought it was just a bunch...

I joined te Hella Shrine & my wife & I are really enjoying it. I don't get why or how people say it's a playground for Masons. I do feel that it's much more family oriented than any lodges I've attended in my 25+ years as a mason. It has many fund raisers which all go toward the Shrine Hospitals...

Very good .....especially the Cuban ones. :thumbup1:

Leon Jimenez I've tried quite a few & always come back to Leon Jimenez. Used to go to the factory & get them in Santo Domingo.... much better prices there. :39::39:

I guess my question would be is why did the GLoT allow it to be sown on their website whether it's the right or wrong version? Sounds kind of hipocritical about not allowing it yet still showing it. JMHO

I found it on the GLoT website when I did a search for it. September 2008 Masonic Education - The Tyler's Oath | The Grand Lodge of Texas A.F. & A.M. 3rd paragraph down....

Can the TO be posted here? I see it printed everywhere and was just wondering.......

Excuse my ignorance brother, but what is "mainstream"? BTW our dues are $80 per year. Degrees are 125, 125 & 120 .... includes investigation.

I could use a pdf LIFE copy as well including the Junior Warden pdf please.

Is that what is printed in the Masonic passports?

I also have tried both types and continue to do so. I've been testing the ATT Vivid (Droid) 4G for a few weeks & so far no issues whatsoever. I get the FULL bells & whistles as I have to thoroughly test, play everything on cell phones. My team & I do this before we recommend what mobile devices...

Well said Brother.... Well said...

“That flag dips before no earthly king”." Hence... it does dip for the Christian Flag?..... certainly not an earthly king.

Brings to mind that a long long time ago I was told that the Christian Flag is the only flag the the American flags "dips" it's colors to. As we all know... the American flag never dips it's colors to any other nations flag............. unless this president has changed that. :cool:

I'm wondering if there is a PDF on the Monitor Book

I am some what surprised also that there are few votes for Shriners. Personally I find it to be more "family involvement/oriented" than my Blue Lodge. I am kinda considering whether to continue thru the chairs (just started) as I enjoy the social family fellowhip with the Shrine. Also, the...

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Great! Thanks for the clarity. So in the case below ONLY the Jr. PM can may preside as WM. So if the WM & SW is absent does the JW assume the WM position for that night? Thnx, JerryB