Completed 4th - 32nd

Discussion in 'The Scottish Rite' started by Travelling Man91, Aug 21, 2016.

  1. Ripcord22A

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    I'm so tired of all these people being told not to wear an emblem that they have earned on the off-chance that they're not able to answer a question that they are ask outside of Lodge. As for the ancient and accepted Scottish Rite the only thing I have ever been asked is when I've knocked on the door and then asked for the password by The Sentinel. Brother if you have been through the degrees of the Scottish Rite and earn the title of sublime Prince of the royal secret slap that double headed eagle on your car all day long. If some jack wagon wants to get crazy and start getting upset with you because you can't answer some of your questions from the 23rd degree third apartment tell him to kick rocks

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  2. Ripcord22A

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    In addition to that I have a DS card from two separate jurisdictions and a DS card from two separate organs of the ancient and accepted Scottish Rite of the Southern jurisdiction. So if someone asked me a question that I don't know I'm just going to straight tell him hey brother I don't remember the answer to that question but here's my dues card if you don't believe that I'm a mason and even if I wasn't a Mason if I'm wearing a ring or not an emblem or something like that on my car there's nothing to stop a non Mason from doing that. I have a thin blue line sticker on my truck but I am not a law enforcement officer same difference

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  3. Ripcord22A

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    Also not to mention the fact that every jurisdiction is slightly different so if u ask me a question amd i amswer it how my juris does it might be different then urs

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  4. mrpierce17

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    If you have been advanced to the degree of 32nd Sublime Prince I agree put I on if you want you could learn the phrase wrote under the eagle and translate it in English and know why the eagle has two heads but in all fairness No one should be trying you outside of lodge in a hostile manner if a brother ask you a question answer it if you feel like it if you don't know the answer then the brother asking should have light to impart on the question asked , if he's just trying to be a jerk just be off and part ways ....YOU EARNED IT WARE IT PROUDLY
     
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  6. Travelling Man91

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  7. Kenneth NC Mason

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    Yep

    So I'd assume that body is legit

    But the one in DC ...


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  8. Derinique Kendrick

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    I'm looking into joining, but I had no idea about what's been going on? What's with the old and new SC if you know enough to explain?
     
  9. Derinique Kendrick

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    Congrats!
     
  10. dfreybur

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    Since you went to NC and NC has local recognition you are good according to their local rules. If your jurisdiction has an "act like the locals when visiting" rule you're good. If your jurisdiction has an "act by our rules no matter where you are" rule you leave. If you don't know which rule your jurisdiction has ask yourself whether you intend to be cautious or generous.

    Going the other direction doesn't work that way. You're an NC Brother with local recognition so in NC you can visit any time across the two local jurisdictions. You go to FL where there is no recognition. On that trip you can't pick either SR jurisdiction to visit as you will be recognized by one, won't be recognized by the other.

    I know - Complex, confusing, frustrating. You can always show up, present your credentials and ask them if you are welcome. Let your hosts sort it out.
     
  11. Kenneth NC Mason

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    Makes sense

    What I have heard however, is that with the USC recognizing the Mainstream SR, you COULD go to a Prince Hall Scottish Rite meeting in Georiga, but just not on the Blue Lodge level.

    In NC we do have the when in rome rule. In fact, if it wasn't for the fact that PHA Lodges in general do NOT allow plural membership, it could be a thing we could do in NC, since our GL doesn't have a problem with it ( the PH GL on the other hand obviously does ).
     
  12. Ripcord22A

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    there are others on here that know far more than I however, in a nut shell there is some serious allegations be levied against the leadership of the PHA AASR SC. Rather then get mixed up in it a very senior brother ( a GM or PGM if im not mistaken) took it upon him self to start a new PHA SC. This is where is gets murkey- other then the fact that he just started this SC they are regular. They use the same degree structure as the recognized PHA SC they only accept regular PHA masons ect ect. he started this SC so that the lower eschelon brethren didn't get wraped up in the allegations, also so that those that were in leadership positions but didn't know what was happing wouldn't get their names brought in to a federal investigation. That is all I know. I am not a PHA mason and am going off of 2nd, 3rd and 4th party info.

    I was told my venerable master that we received notice from the AASR-SJ to be cautious when accepting visitors till this whole thing gets cleared up.
     
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  13. Travelling Man91

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    Incorrect. I made a phone call to a "mainstream" valley here in my hometown. He explained to me that a PH mason could not enter their valley due to recognition issues with both GL bodies. Same applies for a "mainstream" mason trying to enter a PH valley. It didn't stop there, I called the Supreme Council located in Washington DC to get clarification. I spoke with Brent Morris (Many of you are familiar with him from the History Channel documentaries). Even though the GL does not govern the Scottish Rite, it was left up on a local level to decide who can and can't enter the valleys. So naturally if my GL doesn't recognize you, my valley won't either. Brother Brent did state that, if a SR PH mason from a state were both GL did not recognize each other, if he came to DC he could attend their valley, as the local level there have full recognition.
     
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  14. dfreybur

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    This is strange because GLofDC has what's called "blanket recognition". If you have recognition in your local state you are covered by the blanket. If you don't have recognition in your local state you are not covered by the blanket.
     
  15. Travelling Man91

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    Not on the blue Lodge level, I'm speaking on the SR Valley
     
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  17. Ripcord22A

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    This is correct however the members of the SR in said state must follow the rules of the GL first amd foremost. GLs could forbid its members from joining the AASR if they wanted due to the recognition of PHA

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  18. Travelling Man91

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    In no way am I discouraging you from joining PH SR. I am a member of PH SR. I think both organizations are great. As I have stated before, this shouldn't even be an issue. Looking forward to the day we become one united brotherhood .
     
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  19. Travelling Man91

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    They very well could, but the chances of that happening are slim. This makes no logical sense to me in all honesty.
     
  20. Ripcord22A

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    well look at the shrine in Arkansas.....
     

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