Bloke
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I think to consider admitting women to address a failing membership is very faulted - one of the great things about is that if offers a rare healthy male space in the modern world and that's extremely valuable. Some confuse that with misogyny, but we know much better and how important women are to Freemasonry. Last night at the Shrine, the secretary's wife was working just as hard as he was to organise food and raffles and general admin matters.
Understand. And a great point. I guess I just feel its disrespectful to keep putting female freemasonry down because it does not comply with what our idea of "Freemasonry" is. Not saying you are doing that Brother Warrior, just that I hear it too often. Many once said that about our Prince Hall Brothers but perhaps more simularly, it's like saying your Christian Church is worthless because it is not my Church. I think organisations like the Honourable Order of Women Freemasons deserve our respect, even if we would object to sitting in a tyler lodge with them (as they would us).
I wholeheartedly agree, but is there any traditional "regular" list which does not mention Freemasonry as a Fraternity which admits men only ? Is there any GL which decided to admit women and lost or was unable to obtain recognition from UGLE is which is often seen as the Gold Standard for recognition ?
An very important point.
Female Freemasonry is clearly irregular, but that does not make it an invalid. Its a strong and proud tradition.
Let's also remember the blog I posted is the thoughts of one Brother and not an official position.
Just as the original writer and Bro Jones says, bullying is bad. Bad for men, bad for lodges and just bad !
None thing's for sure,
.. since female Masonry is irregular and / or clandestine I don't bother with thinking about whether it is valid or not.
Understand. And a great point. I guess I just feel its disrespectful to keep putting female freemasonry down because it does not comply with what our idea of "Freemasonry" is. Not saying you are doing that Brother Warrior, just that I hear it too often. Many once said that about our Prince Hall Brothers but perhaps more simularly, it's like saying your Christian Church is worthless because it is not my Church. I think organisations like the Honourable Order of Women Freemasons deserve our respect, even if we would object to sitting in a tyler lodge with them (as they would us).
Which landmarks would those be? Mackey? Pound? Whatever list a particular GL makes up?
I wholeheartedly agree, but is there any traditional "regular" list which does not mention Freemasonry as a Fraternity which admits men only ? Is there any GL which decided to admit women and lost or was unable to obtain recognition from UGLE is which is often seen as the Gold Standard for recognition ?
..As to belief in Deity, I would not confuse feminine Freemasonry and coed Freemasonry
An very important point.
Female Freemasonry is clearly irregular, but that does not make it an invalid. Its a strong and proud tradition.
Let's also remember the blog I posted is the thoughts of one Brother and not an official position.
Just as the original writer and Bro Jones says, bullying is bad. Bad for men, bad for lodges and just bad !
None thing's for sure,