Trysquare what would I know?
My interest lies in the Roman Catholic organisations in Australia. They've got all sort of secret societies, Irish mainly.
And the overt orders.
And then you have the communists, the Fabians.
You read their inside literature, you see a theme.
That is each of these groups tend to believe they run the world.
They can't all be right.
Are the masons any different?
I think none of them are right. You can't just join a group like that. You have to create it.
If I wanted to control everything and everyone, I'd be a power junkie. Why would I share that power with any Tom ,Dick, or Harry? Its inconsistent with my charcter.
I might share some of my knowledge to give authenticity to my lie, to control very smart men,though.
The point here , in this topic,is that the masons aren't under the control of any soverign,
I believe they are.
And that they hide that control. For a variety of reasons.
How could Americans work for a British Monarch without committing treason?
How could protestants work for a a papal order(Jesuits/Knights of Malta) in the British Commonwealth without committing treason?
I'd argue that the Knights of St John are not a new order. They were outlawed by Henry viii, so one might assume went underground.
Considering they claim the Middle Temple, including Temple Church as their Soverign state and the Queen appoints them to administer the law. They've done very well for themselves in a century or so from scratch.
I also saw on a Knights of StJohn website that these Knights of St John and the papal Knights of Malta are the only 2 recognised Hospitaller Orders going back to the crusades.
Which you'll have to take my word for, it was a long time ago I read it.
But that is not consistent with an order created in the 19th century.