Homosexual and Bisexual Brother Masons

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  1. Mason653

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    Thoughts/Opinions. Keep it clean. Honest, and Open. I'm just want to hear brothers experience with this or if there are brothers who are on here. Also how do you receive/treat a brother who would be one of the above sexualities?


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  2. daviddenboer

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    I'd treat them as a human being, being a vertical ally I support the glbt community. I have met brothers who are in that category and as a fc I was taught freemasonry was open to all but atheists. Some lodges may be more strict however but I don't know of any.


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  3. Mason653

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    Let me just add. Also what do you say to the applicant who is gay or bi? How would that affect the ballot? Should they receive a free cold beer? or would personal bias get in the way? Please try not to be mean. I'm just wondering. Been on my mind.


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  4. Mason653

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    You're a good man. Thanks for being a great example of a true mason.

    Some are old school. Also some brothers are....you know? I know we are trying to all be better men though.


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  5. widows son

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    Being gay or bi sexual has nothing to do with Freemasonry.

    Another persons sexual orientation is none of my business. I respect good people period.
     
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  6. Bro. Stewart P.M.

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    Personal view, it has NOTHING to do with the fraternity of Freemasonry. The question should never come up by application or interview, and has no physical relavance with any part of the fraternity. Period. Ask any Brother that has really known me for any length of time, they will tell you that I have had my share of experience with this subject.

    Now, let me say this ONCE. I will closely monitor this discussion. If I feel that any one person at anytime turns this into anything more than a properly formed discussion or debate, I will shut this topic down and will discipline accordingly the individuals responsible for letting it get out of hand. Period.
     
  7. El Dud3rino

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    Being an artist I have had a lot of GLBT friends and artist I have known and worked with. Never an issue. They know if someone is or is not. Found them to be more in touch with reality then others.

    As a mason, I would not have an issue with them in a lodge setting, or any where. If masons are going to embrace the very nature of the fraternity I would think they too should have no problem with them either.

    This being said there will always be people that try to disrupt harmony. In that case we should rely on what we have learned in masonry and over come the issue with light.


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  8. otherstar

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    I don't see a problem. If they are good men, believe in a Supreme Being, then whose business is it who they choose to be intimate with?
     
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    Gay marriage is legal in California now is not?
     
  10. Bro. Stewart P.M.

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    I am not sure what relevance that gay marriage has to the discussion at hand. How would that affect a Brother's personal view towards homosexual membership?

    Maybe I am the confused.
     
  11. Heart of Stone

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    I don't have a problem with gay men, but I don't want it in my lodge.

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    I would treat him no differently. If we are to truly meet on the level, and regard neither race, religion, nor creed, then why should we treat sexual preference any different?


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  13. dfreybur

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    Just to check - Folks are aware that you can't tell unless you're told, right? There's no such thing as a "gaydar" that works. Somewhere in the range of 1-10% of the population aren't straight and anyone not told doesn't know which 1-10% of the people who they know are. Think about that a bit. If you know several hundred brothers like you're active in many lodges and other events, there are brothers who are not "out of the closet" who you know the person but not the orientation. Because bi was included in the topic you can't even eliminate married brothers with children from consideration. You also can't eliminate gay married men with children because you don't know if they are out to their wives.

    As to folks who are "out of the closet" I've never read any rule about it. Up to you how you would ballot based on that and no one can ever ask you how you balloted or why. We teach to have values but we don't teach what those values are to be.
     
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    • It doesn't, I was just curious.
     
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  15. mike97

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    What difference should it make? As long as a man is a just and upright man when they begin their journey, they will remain a just and upright man. A persons sexual preference should not make any difference to any other person.

    Of course, this is my opinion.
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  16. Heart of Stone

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    I don't have a problem with the gay community, I just think if that individual was openly out and flamboyant with it, it could be a problem with the straight brothers.

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  17. mike97

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    Is it masonry about tolerance?

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  18. Plustax

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    I think what bothers me most of all this topic us using the word "gay". Persons who prefer same sex partners are either Homosexual or Lesbian.... That's all there is to it. The word "gay" was a perfectly good word in tge English language thst meant happy about 30yrs ago. Now because of our society not wanting to hurt peoples feelings or wanting to be "politically correct" we "bastardize" our American language. Be that as it may... Due to society still not 100% in favor of homosexuality, I don't believe that lodges will probably never fully accept it if it's made widely known as to who prefers a same sex partner.
     
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  19. MarkR

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    Devil's advocate question: what if a brother's religion teaches that homosexuality is a sin? Would you expect that brother to support a sinner for membership?
     
  20. rmcgehee

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    I was the Chaplin at the funeral of a "gay" member of our Lodge.I did not know he was gay until the ffuneral and it made no difference.
     
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