Lucifer and Satan

Discussion in 'Philosophy, Religion and Spirituality' started by Blake Bowden, Jan 16, 2010.

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  1. Illuminated

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    What about the Cremation of Care? World elite participating in a mock ritual under a 40 ft Stone Owl? The owl is a Masonic symbol... There is Satanism in Freemasonry... He will give you, give you 666. There's no escaping it!


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  2. newkid18

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    I assume your talking about the bohemian grove its not satanic in my opinion its where the worlds top member of elite classes go to party really hard like college frat boys even quotes about say you might see some primie minister dick in one hand beer in the other pardon the luanguage

    If a man empties his purse into his head, no man can take it away from him. An investment in knowledge always pays the best interest." —Benjamin Franklin, American writer, humorist, ambassador, inventor and Freemason
     
  3. Bro Darren

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    The funny thing about that picture is that it's been found to have NOTHING to do with this imaginary elite group. The picture was found to have come out of a B grade movie from the 90's (can't recall the one) but looking at the picture you can see no one in it.

    Oh and the owl is also featured in many things like Harry Potter for example.

    You might want to unplug from INFOWARS and take off your tin foil hat.
     
  4. BryanMaloney

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    What about it? It's not a Masonic ritual, nor is the group who does it a Freemasonic body.
     
  5. Illuminated

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    So you are telling me that Alex jones didn't go into bohemian grove? He caught it on video...


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  6. Bro Darren

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    Alex make a very nice income from his "truth" exposing fear campaigns.

    You believe what you want, but if Alex was true to himself he would have discovered the truth and not made up his own version.

    He milks those that get too involved in conspiracy theories and most of the stuff on his many websites is great for a laugh.
     
  7. BroBook

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    According to my search lucifer (Light bearer) became satan (adversary)!!!


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  8. BryanMaloney

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    Or he just staged it.
     
  9. BroBook

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    Yes that extraterrestrial civilization I call demons, he ( lucifer) " was " perfect in all his ways until iniquity was found in him, he decided he would put his throne in the north above God's and yes he and his demons do influence people he is also called the prince of the air, in closing I suggest that we as masons ought to go and actually read through our GEAT LIGHT it can't rule or guide if it is not read!!! Oh and yes he is leaving and we that make it to the end will receive the blessing " life forever more !WWEA


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  10. pointwithinacircle2

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    Eternal life. There is an interesting moral lesson to be learned from the study of the word Eternal. Infinite means having no beginning and no end. The life of God is infinite. That which is eternal has a beginning, but no ending. As a man I had a beginning. The only thing which is required for my life to be eternal is that it has no end. This seems to indicate that if I have an eternal life - it has already begun. It is an interesting thought to ponder, is it not?
     
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  11. jjjjjggggg

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    My two cents...

    As a former Christian I can see why some folks would be up in arms about Pike's use of Lucifer. In my particular flavor of Christianity we were taught that Satan and Lucifer were one in the same.

    Now, I don't fault a Christian brother for believing that both are literal beings in the universe, but my own take is to interpret both as metaphorical arch-types of certain characteristics and recognizing the interplay to all the players involved, and using the lessons to obtain more light.


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  12. jwhoff

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    Always the case Brother dfreyber. The liberal arts are quite necessary but too often overlooked. Liberal Arts and Organic Chemistry here. Sort of prepares us all to be true Lucifer-ians in the end. Does it not?
     
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  13. BryanMaloney

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    Let us return to the ONLY uses of "lucifer" that actually appear in any Bible. They all come from a single Latin translation, Jerome's Vulgate. Think about that. The original languages of the Bible DID NOT EVEN USE "lucifer" in any shape, way, or form. Therefore, anyone who insists that "lucifer" is the actual name of anyone must be claiming that the Jerome Vulgate is the only true version of the Bible. That makes me chuckle.

    What were the three places in which St. Jerome used "lucifer"?

    Isaiah 14:12, Job 11:17, & 2 Peter 1:19.

    Look those up in your favorite translation. Wonder why the translators decided to only use "lucifer" once. Read each in context. Wonder, again, why they chose to use "lucifer" at all. Realize this whole "lucifer" thing is something that could only fool the ignorant.
     
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  14. BroBook

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    Yes my brother much has been lost over the years, that is the ideal of our association we are looking for that which was lost always remember " if we (all mankind) can meet, act and depart there is nothing we can't do"


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    Alex Jones is a con man and a shill. There's tons of proof that he is cointelpro. He's extremely predictable, easily excitable, thinks every act is a false flag and believes self-transforming machine elves are out to destroy the world. He's the last person I would ever base any body of knowledge on.

    In other words, I'm dating a French Model - bonjour.
     
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  16. Rick Carver

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    Albert Pike wrote hundreds of books and papers, tens of thousands paragraphs and millions of words. Idiots like Alex Jones try and use one single paragraph he wrote as "proof positive" that all Masons are unknowingly having their spiritual wi-fi hijacked by Satan. The paragraph in question makes reference to Lucifer and Light. It is worded oddly, but if you check closely it is a reference to that in the Bible, before Lucifer was cast from Heaven, he was called the "Angel of Light."

    Wooooooooooo—knowledge is really scandalous stuff!
     
  17. Rick Carver

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    They didn’t tell me when I became an Entered Apprentice.

    They didn’t tell me when I became a Fellow Craft.

    They didn’t tell me when I became a Master Mason.

    They didn’t tell me when I became a Royal Arch Mason.

    They didn’t tell me at Council, Chapter or Commandary.

    They didn’t tell me when I took the Scottish Rite Degrees.

    They didn’t tell me when I joined KYCH.

    They didn’t tell me when I was awarded the 33°.

    They didn’t tell me when I became Worshipful Master of my Lodge.

    They didn’t tell me when I served as District Deputy Grand Master.

    They didn’t tell me when I became Grand Master.

    When the hell do I get in on all the secret plans for Masons to take over the world?

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  18. BryanMaloney

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    Where? I want to see it laid out and not subject to "interpretation". Otherwise, even this claim is just opinion about Scripture, not a statement of Scripture.
     
  19. Rick Carver

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    All scripture is interpretation and translation. I am the first one to freely admit that what I posted is the same interpretation from translation.

    Were you asking me for the Bible quote of the Pike quote?

    Isaiah 14:12-14King James Version (KJV)
    12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!


    13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:


    14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

    The Pike quote they demonize is:

    "Lucifer, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable, blinds feeble, sensual, or selfish souls? Doubt it not!"

    [Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, p. 321, 19th Degree of Grand Pontiff]​

    I am not saying it is an EXACT match. I am not the one claiming Masons somehow worship Lucifer. You would have to ask Alex Jones about that connection.
     
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  20. BroBook

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