Masonic symbols use in brand

Discussion in 'General Freemasonry Discussion' started by Peterhuppel, Aug 25, 2019.

  1. Peterhuppel

    Peterhuppel Registered User

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    Just wanted to show you guys the logo. It may change your opinions as to whether its appropriate or not. (maybe if I removed the compass)
    Anyway I'm not about to use it anymore taking all your opinions in account, but I am disappointed. Because I think it looks nice. Hope the image is not offending anyone as I post it on here. Else I'll remove it :)

    p.s. I also found someone else who has "degree 33 surfboards" as a name. Never actually looked if someone else already had the name. Of course it can also be interpreted as temperature. It's just what you think with it. :)

    If I made a little temperature circle with it and removed the compass, maybe that switches the interpretation enough. So it's no longer linked to masonry?
     
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  2. Winter

    Winter Premium Member

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    Go do what you're going to do. We arent an approving authority for companies using symbols that may or may not be related to our organization.

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  3. Bill Lins

    Bill Lins Moderating Staff Staff Member

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    No. Scottish Rite Masons use the number of their degree followed by the "little temperature circle" to state their rank.
     
  4. David612

    David612 Registered User

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    The issue in my opinion is that you are knowingly trying to infer Masonic affiliation but aren’t a mason yourself, are employing symbols you don’t understand and are simply trying to cash in on our iconography because it “looks cool”
    There isn’t an issue using Masonic iconography really as the symbol on products, look at Masonic Revival for example but I don’t see why you would want to employ symbols you don’t understand to represent your brand.
     
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  6. vangoedenaam

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    Hey, you can sell shirts with a cross on it without being a christian. The symbols are free, meaning is private. I have no problem with it, but an explanation to go with the product would be appreciated. Kinda like free advertising...

    Why all the nopes? You cant own symbols that are older than you or your (our) organization.


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  7. David612

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    Refer to my post above-
    Tl;dr why use a symbol you don’t understand to represent your brand even more so when the intent is to invoke an assumed Masonic affiliation, an organisation with which you have no affiliation.

    No one is saying he can’t, it just is a bit puzzling as to why you would want to.
     
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  8. Winter

    Winter Premium Member

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    You may want to check the law on that one. Many jurisdictions around the world have a trademark filed for Masonic symbols. Though it is rarely enforced these days. And you cant equate Freemasonry to Christianity. One is a global religion and the other a fraternal order. To completely different animals.

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  9. Brother JC

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    And tee shirts with crosses are sold to a specific audience, one who understands the symbol. Not a lot of non-christians wearing them...

    Circle back to the looming question; why do it?
     
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  10. Peterhuppel

    Peterhuppel Registered User

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    I don't know the exact meaning behind the symbols thats true. I however have a few friends that are Masons. I also asked them.
    They think it's ok. What I really like it is that every Mason can have his own opinion about things! (not relevant but, I was also accepted to a Lodge, but I got cold feet in the end.)
    I do agree with vangoedenaam (Dutchie here too ;) ), that in the end it's a symbol of a tool, that you also adopted and put meaning too. There are also people who use this tool on a daily who are not Masons.
    But it was my intention to make the association with Masonry, so I will not beat around the bush ;)

    To answer the question "Why":
    I see in a lot of pop-culture references to Masonry, I think thats why I wanted to adopt it with my own brand.
    The whole reason I got curious about Freemasonry is that I saw references to it, in music etc. (free publicity) Now of course that often goes along with crazy conspiracies etc. Which I don't want to do. I will do my best to treat every symbol that has meaning to people with respect. As I will do with Christianity or any other faith. (When you are actually interested and do some research and talk to some Masons, you'll know that most of the conspiracy theories totally ridiculous).
     
  11. Bloke

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    Good to see it - it helps a lot. it makes me think of Freemasonry, but am about to go against the flow - I think your adopting a quasi masonic reference rather than our logo or something specific, and hence have no objection.

    (dodges tomatoes :) )
     
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  13. rpbrown

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    Change the 33 to anything else (personally I like 360) and I would be okay with it
     

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